Hosak8

Maybin and Milledge? :mrgreen:

Well, fellas, it's no secret that my team blows, or that I'm not interested in 2007. I'm trying to build for 2008 and beyond, so if you are a playoff contender in need of pitching, I have some available. Derek Lowe Jeff Suppan Jake Westbrook Nate Robertson Billy Wagner Jason Jennings THere are a couple others as well. I realize that I won't get a ton back for some of these guys, but they are still available. A couple of them could be reallyhelpful to some of you. Make an offer.

No, he started fine and ended up a top 4 SS in most leagues. Maybe he's fading fast. Maybe he's just off to a bad start. either way, I'm offering you a pretty nice package for him. Sounds like a sell job to me. It might, but it's still true. He was my fantasy SS in 2 leagues last year, and at no point did he play this poorly.

A keeper LF (I know I have Lind, Ethier, and Victorino, but I need an upgrade) and a keeper SS. I can offer players who will help you now in exchange for guys who could help me down the road.

No, he started fine and ended up a top 4 SS in most leagues. Maybe he's fading fast. Maybe he's just off to a bad start. either way, I'm offering you a pretty nice package for him.

I don't think your pitching is very good, all things considered. Yes you have Sheets, but he's never healthy. Harang is very good, but there's not another pitcher on your staff I'd put above Willis right now. That being said, no way I give up Sizemore and Sheff for that package. Not a chance.

What about an OF who plays all 3 positions and a draft pick in the 3rd round?

You don't really believe this, do you? Wood is going to be good, sure, but not one of the top 2 offensive players in the game. Especially not in two years.

He was too busy auditing the rest of the leagues rosters to notice your offer.

If you say no, you should forever be banned from fantasy sports.

In the deal, I also received Vine's 3rd rounder in 2008.

Fixed!

In my latest deal, I received Wright, Elbert and Vinestal's 3rd rounder in 2008 for ARod. I now should have Vine's 3rd and SoCal's 5th in 2008, and I've given up my own 6th.

I received his 5th rounder in 2008.

Tim... I did receive SoCAl's 5th rounder in 2008.

Really... do you have a life outside of fantasy baseball? Geez... the roster police strike again.

What is IBL? And, this should effectively put an end to anyone who was still standing on the silly old notion that Prior isn't injury prone. JD Drew thinks Prior needs to get healthy.

Dang bro... are you the roster police? He just went above the amount of plate appearanes in the past few days. Do you really watch everyone elses rosters that closely?

Seriously... anyone? Same for Figgins, Victorino, Iguchi, etc. I'll take low draft picks for some of these guys.

THought this might help get some more trade chatter going. I'm sure it will pick up once people ave an idea of what they really have, but it never hurts to start early. I'd really like to pick up Howie Kendrick, Stephen Drew and possibly Elijah Dukes. Yes, I passed on Dukes int he draft, and yes, he still might assault an ump, fan, or beer vendor, but he might be nice to have for a team going nowhere in 2007. Also, some SP would be nice.

You guys there? Curious about the offers I made you two.

I'd be all for it. But, if we're dealing Barrett to replace him with Hank for a full season, I'm not so sure. If only there were a 3 team deal that would allow us to bring in Saltamacchia, who is blocked in Atlanta.

Hopefully I'll be in this thread alot this year.

The idea with the intentional walks is that sportsline awards both the walk and the intentional walk. So instead of receiving the normal 0.75 points for a walk the hitter "earned", he only gets a total of 0.5 points for a walk that he's "given". Same deal with the pitchers. No reason to punish them as heavily when the manager tells them to walk someone. Tim... You've completely missed the point on one item. In the league rules, a batter who is intentionally walked has his points DEDUCTED, while a pitcher who intentionally walks someone has points ADDED. That isn't wacky? No, you're missing the point. In sportsline, the batter who gets intentionally walked gets credit for both a walk and an intentional walk. So his points go like this: A regular walk is worth 0.75 points. An intentional walk is worth 0.5 (0.75 + -0.25) points. Same thing on the pitching side of things. Still think it's wacky? So, he gets the points for the walk AND the intentional walk? Now I'm starting to see. It's such a different points system than anything I've ever played with, so it will definitely take time to adjust.

Yes, no points for wins. The point of fantasy baseball is to measure the performance of the individual player and not reward for team results. If you were drafting the entire Boston team and not just Daisuke, then it would make sense to award wins. But since it is just Santana on the mound, he is not generating wins on his own. The points are set up to reward pitchers for the jobs they do on their individual performances, not for their contributions to their teams. Otherwise we should be awarding points for being a "good clubhouse guy". Again, the idea was to award people for their individual contributions, including defense. Where this becomes more important is for AL players that spend significant time at DH. For example, it reduces Piazza's value as a catcher because he really isn't providing any value that way in real life. I should probably have something there for complete games. But the pitchers are getting nine innings worth of points on an inning by inning basis, so they are already getting richly rewarded for going the distance. Also, the idea is to isolate the performance of the individual, so the "team" benefit of saving the pen is not really relevant in fantasy baseball. Don't get me started on saves. I had to talk myself into the single bonus point for them. The idea with the intentional walks is that sportsline awards both the walk and the intentional walk. So instead of receiving the normal 0.75 points for a walk the hitter "earned", he only gets a total of 0.5 points for a walk that he's "given". Same deal with the pitchers. No reason to punish them as heavily when the manager tells them to walk someone. Yes, the harm caused by getting caught is far bigger than the benefit created by a successful steal. In this era of baseball, every study I've ever seen puts the ratio at around 3-1. I was actually being generous to the value of steals when I only made it 2-1 here. That said, I do plan on increasing the value of steals for next season. Instead of lambasting out of the chute, why not ask for the rationale first? Who knows...there just might be some logic behind it. Tim... You've completely missed the point on one item. In the league rules, a batter who is intentionally walked has his points DEDUCTED, while a pitcher who intentionally walks someone has points ADDED. That isn't wacky?