and i bet if you took a poll of major leaguers, they'd say juan pierre and david eckstein are good baseball players. that's a little unfair why? even if it's an exaggeration (and I don't think it is), it makes the point that players are biased, and even ignorant, towards evaluation of players/stats/results. well it wasn't my argument.... either way, Sammy drove in 158 runs on a team with a .335 OBP while Olerud drove in 93 on a team with a .328 OBP. In other words, the frequency with which their teammates got on base was negligible, but Sammy made much better of it This is a stupid way to look at it. 1. You are actually rewarding Sosa for making outs. Sosa's low walk rate would lead to more outs with runners on. Olerud took walks. 2. You are rewarding Sosa and penalizing Olerud for the parks they played in. 3. Sosa had 13.3% more PAs w/ runners on base. 4. Sosa had over 50 more runners on when he came up. 5. Olerud was JUST as efficient as driving in runners from 2B and 3B as Sosa was. Sosa was obviously more efficient with runners on 1B due to the home runs, but one has to remember the walks. Sosa hit a bunch of HRs. Olerud did EVERYTHING else better. He pitched a lot better, but Sammy didn't need no stinking helmet in the field.