illiniguy

Well there's two holes to that theory. The first being Jordan probably improved from his early 20's to late 20's. Secondly a lot of the other stars retired around this point leaving the league more wide open. While I don't think that MJ would have won without Pippen, you can't ever really know for sure. I've always wondered too if Pippen wasn't helped more by Jordan becoming a more complete player and helping make his teammates better. Pippen was an absolutely great player (on both ends of the court). I hate when people try to sell him short (and I know that you're not doing that). That team was great without Jordan. You took Jordan away from the 93 team, replaced him, essentially, with Pete Meyers and Toni Kukoc, and the team was still a bad call away from the conference finals and who knows how far thereafter. I feel safe enough saying that without Pippen and with a bad supporting cast like those Bulls of early in his career, Jordan would probably not have won a single ring. That said, with an average supporting cast, he might've pulled off one or two. But the point was that if the team around him is bad enough, even the GOAT could probably go an entire career without a ring. Obviously, it's just a made up hypothetical, so it proves nothing at all, really, but it illustrates the point. There is no doubt that Pippen became an amazing player that dominated the game at both ends. His point forward ability changed the way people developed teams. I agree with most of what you said, my only thing is I cannot see LeBron going down as the best ever if he doesn't somehow find a way to win a ring.

Well there's two holes to that theory. The first being Jordan probably improved from his early 20's to late 20's. Secondly a lot of the other stars retired around this point leaving the league more wide open. While I don't think that MJ would have won without Pippen, you can't ever really know for sure. I've always wondered too if Pippen wasn't helped more by Jordan becoming a more complete player and helping make his teammates better.

This could be it. He was amazing in '93. But even that year he had an amazing Kevin Johnson. A once in a lifetime, hey I'm sober, Richard Dumas. He also had Tom Chambers on that team.

In what year was Karl Malone the best player in the game? And no the answer isn't when they got tired of giving the MVP to Michael.

If only we would have had a chance to use Hoffpauir, one of the few big league bats we have right now, during this game.

From what I've heard, it's not his arm that's the problem. It's his glove. Apparently he can't catch the ball behind the plate or in the field. That's what I don't understand, how can you be a catcher your entire high school and college career and all of a sudden not be able to catch the ball behind the plate? From what I've heard he would drop routine strikes, is that true? How do you just lose the ability to do that after being in that position for close to a decade? Probably the same way a guy can forget how to throw strikes.

Actually if you contact the KUAD please ask him if he can change the acronym to UK since you are the University of Kansas and allegedly an institute for higher learning.

Good point. If that isn't what he was implying I guess he was just making a personal attack.

So he fits in well with Kentucky's history. I think maybe I was a bit wrong about Bruce Weber's recruiting. I'm glad he wasn't cheating to land Rose and Gordon. I wonder now too if what the Illiniboard swears about Kansas is also true? Your logic is impeccable. You're completely right there is no way that Kansas could be involved in any wrong doing. The Collins-Longstreet allegations, the Arthur not really passing high school, and the Darnell Jackson getting paid were all just stories. Poor Bill had no idea any of this was going on. At the very least it probably should raise some eyebrows, but thanks for pointing out that there is nothing to any of it with a well thought out answer.

True, but we've been willing to give at bats to Aaron Miles all year. Why can't or couldn't we find a spot for Uggla? I don't like giving ABs to Aaron Miles and though Uggla is far superior, I don't think he'd be worth what Florida would likely ask in return. Well that's the kicker I guess, but it sounds like they want to move him. At least according to MLB and ESPN, it might not cost a ton to get him.

True, but we've been willing to give at bats to Aaron Miles all year. Why can't or couldn't we find a spot for Uggla?

Because then we'd have to live with Uggla at 2B. He's never had an OPS below .800. Even this year he's at .778 and most likely will revert back to form. I don't get thwy he would be so bad at 2B. and amazing sig. He has a -8.8 UZR at second base. That's probably a big part of it. Yeah he sucks at defense, but man can he mash when he's going good.

Because then we'd have to live with Uggla at 2B. He's never had an OPS below .800. Even this year he's at .778 and most likely will revert back to form. I don't get thwy he would be so bad at 2B. and amazing sig.

Why dont we try and get Uggla and live with Fontenot at third?

Yep. I think we all know what this means. Duke is our new national champion. Just ask Dick Vitale.

It's amazing to me that all of this nonsense is being dumped in Hendry's lap. Lou (and Dusty before him) is the one setting these agendas, by and large. This whole getting more lefthanded business mostly Piniella's idea. Hendry's options are: a) construct the team in the way his manager wants it (what he's doing now), or b) fire the manager and hire one with a different philosophy (what he did when Dusty's gameplan wasn't working). Regardless, the GM and the manager need to be reading from the same playbook, and that comes predominantly from the manager. Dusty was never fired. We let him railroad a season instead of firing him. His contract ran out.

Hopefully an overhaul within the front office.

My problem is that the NCAA waited until after Cal was gone to do anythign about it. As for Henley, I haven't seen him play, but if he is better than Shaw that is one hell of a team.

So he fits in well with Kentucky's history. I think maybe I was a bit wrong about Bruce Weber's recruiting. I'm glad he wasn't cheating to land Rose and Gordon. I wonder now too if what the Illiniboard swears about Kansas is also true?

I've caught all of his home starts. It's so odd how people almost seem let down when he gives up a run. He's been that good.

This was kinda the cubs problem for years as well. We just knew that Wrigley would bring the people in.

there is a way and i think it has happened. i'm just trying to figure out which side sounds more inane. Luckily you are always right, so it won't take you too long to figure it out.

Wrong. We've scored 7 runs. Usually thats an easy win. Its only the 4th, and he gawn. Hence the if only Ryan had anything tonight part.

Wrong. We've scored 7 runs. Usually thats an easy win.

Man if Dempster has anything tonight he gets an easy win.