OleMissCub

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former Attorney General...

there was just some weird audio overlap there for a second

I like this alot

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Good stats and good point, but again, service time should negate Hack from being a real nominee. He only has two years on Hornsby in that regard. To put it in perspective, Aramis Ramirez has been a cub longer than Hack was.

Pretty good stats that I think back up the claim that Williams was the best over his career. You can dismiss Hornsby for lack of time served, then take out Wilson and Sosa because of their era's (Hack suffers from lack of time served too, imo), then obviously take out Lee & Rammy who both don't have service time yet as Cubs, and you are left with Williams. * as far as what adequate service time is in order to be considered an all-time great with a team, I'm gonna submit that 10 years is enough.

That's definitely tops. The next best would most likely be Hack Wilson from 1927-1930, when he posted a 1.051 OPS. His overall numbers in six years as a Cub are great with a line of .322/.412/.590 and an average of 31 HR, 108 R, and 128 RBI per season. Hack is problematic because his astronomical numbers were in large part due to the crazy offensive era in which he played. The ridiculous offensive numbers of the late 20's-early 30's stand as the only real rival to the steroid era as far as offensive production. Consider that in Hack's best year, 1930, the LEAGUE batting average was .303. Thus, one could (if they wanted to) quite convincingly dismiss Sosa (roids) and Hack (softball league stats) from their lists of greatest Cubs hitters. If one were to do that, I'd think the clear remaining choice is Billy Williams. Completely contrary to Hack, Billy put up the bulk of his numbers while playing during an era dominated by pitching. For example, take 1963 and see that the league BA was just .249. You have to go back to 1917 to find a league BA that low. So for Billy to hit a career .290 during an 18 year career when the league average was .254 over that same span is pretty impressive. His 133 career OPS+ over 18 seasons is pretty damn nice as well. I guess I've convinced myself in doing this research right now. I'm gonna go with Billy Williams. final answer.

From a purely cumulative stats perspective, I'd have to say Sosa and then Billy Williams. The most talented hitter to ever play for the Cubs I think would have to be Hornsby. But he only played with us for four years, so I don't really consider him to be a member of our "greatest players" club.

that's awesome! he messed up the world placement though.. it's supposed to be "two rats [expletive] in a wool sock."

lindbergh baby

that's great, Rocket

thats pretty good imb

Babe will whip your ass in Basketball and Football too http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/409.jpg http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/BabeRuthKicksAHomeRunSanFrancisco.jpg

Now I like him even more. He rules.

now you've got it. good one

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This is pretty classy. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4329684

damn Derwood beat me by a few minutes http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3127/soriruby.jpg

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Never saw the Mussolini

I don't think you get it. x 1

Seriously Inari, we are talking about murder, mayhem, assassinations, genocide, extinctions, etc., not mean old lady's!

booooo, try again

Best of the lot no way, my Soriano = Original Sin one can't be beat :-) I do love the Franz Ferdinand one though. It's awesome.