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Without Wrigley, the Cubs are just another team that perpetually sucks. The Cubs already outdraw a bunch of bigger stadiums of better ball clubs because of Wrigley. I'd just keep jacking up the ticket prices rather than rolling the dice that you can recreate the magic of Wrigley somewhere else. You'd have to hope that 3+ million people are driving out to bumble-f to see one of the worst teams in baseball.

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue). let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us. as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark. I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day. That's going to be pretty tough to figure out. They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome. The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new. How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this? The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this. They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs. True, the attendance would have been down last year-the attendance would probably be up overall if they went to a new ballpark though. I'm not advocating them going to a new ballpark whatsoever, but it probably would improve average attendance numbers. I don't think it would. The Cubs are perennially 6th in total attendance. It's not because they are good. If they built a larger stadium in the burbs and have teams as bad as they recently have had, I doubt they would match Wrigley's attendance numbers. the Cubs are 6th in attendance because they sell out a 38,000 seat park. If they had a 45,000 seat park, the % of tickets sold could go down but the overall attendance could go up It could, but I doubt it would. I doubt 20 thousand people would have gone to a non-Wrigley park to see last year's crew.

Wow.

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue). let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us. as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark. I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day. That's going to be pretty tough to figure out. They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome. The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new. How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this? The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this. They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs. True, the attendance would have been down last year-the attendance would probably be up overall if they went to a new ballpark though. I'm not advocating them going to a new ballpark whatsoever, but it probably would improve average attendance numbers. I don't think it would. The Cubs are perennially 6th in total attendance. It's not because they are good. If they built a larger stadium in the burbs and have teams as bad as they recently have had, I doubt they would match Wrigley's attendance numbers. I think it would even out with a little edge to the new ballpark-many people still want to go up and see a Cubs game, and if they built a nice new ballpark they still would go to a game. For seasons like 2006, the attendance would be down, but those years would be balanced with years like 03 or 04, where the attendance would be up from Wrigley. It's all an estimation but a lot of people aren't going to Wrigley for the baseball. People make trips to specifically go to Wrigley. People plan events around going to a game at Wrigley because there is a lot to do around the park. Speaking as someone who lives in the city. I doubt I'd go to more than one game a year, if the park is in Waukeegan or some other trashtastic local. I probably go to between 12-15 games a year now. I honestly think that if the Cubs move out of Wrigley they go from being "THE CUBS" and everything that goes with it, to just another team. No other team in Baseball had a relationship with fans so closely tied to where they play.

This is the only way I see them having to trash Wrigley in the next decade or so.

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue). let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us. as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark. I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day. That's going to be pretty tough to figure out. They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome. The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new. How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this? The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this. They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs. True, the attendance would have been down last year-the attendance would probably be up overall if they went to a new ballpark though. I'm not advocating them going to a new ballpark whatsoever, but it probably would improve average attendance numbers. I don't think it would. The Cubs are perennially 6th in total attendance. It's not because they are good. If they built a larger stadium in the burbs and have teams as bad as they recently have had, I doubt they would match Wrigley's attendance numbers.

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue). let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us. as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark. I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day. That's going to be pretty tough to figure out. They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome. The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new. How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this? The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this. They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs.

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue). let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us. as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark. I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day. That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

You mean stop the hands of time? I'd love to, but my Mom told me it doesn't work that way. Really? Because I think that's the plan for the forseeable future. They've been replacing pieces of the ballpark for years. How is that not changing anything? I thought he was referencing the moving of the park.

You mean stop the hands of time? I'd love to, but my Mom told me it doesn't work that way. Really? Because I think that's the plan for the forseeable future.

Me either. I could take it or leave it. It's blue with a "C" on it. :|

AGREED! I would not want it by the lake though. Summer is summer, but in April and May I could use a few extra degrees. I always thought a ballpark off I-90 right before the O'Hare turnoff. Then you are right on the Jefferson Park-O'Hare Train, near the tollway as well. And you would actually have room for parking. Make it happen Trib! Let's not get crazy. Yea, I'm not a huge fan of stadiums in isolated locations with highways and huge airports nearby. Personally, I'd love a new stadium right on the lake shore, as long as the park was designed tastefully. I know it's not realistically feasible and it'll likely never happen, but I think the Chicago lakefront would be one of the coolest locations ever for a ballpark. It would suck a little more in April and (dare I say) October, though. They could referbish the Navy Pier area. again? And put a new baseball park in. the logistics are a nightmare. too much of navy pier is very new. They should burn down navy pier and salt the earth where it once stood.

I'm not sure it's quite that long, but that's probably Jeff Samardzija, the pitching prospect from ND. I was thinking it might be Cotts, but Samardzija makes a lot more sense. It was Jeff. I watched in interview with him and his hair was out of control. It looks really long hanging out of the back of his hat too.

I don't see what's so bad about them.

Chandler is doing well. Curry is scoring but is a huge creampuff who can't rebound or block shots.

AGREED! I would not want it by the lake though. Summer is summer, but in April and May I could use a few extra degrees. I always thought a ballpark off I-90 right before the O'Hare turnoff. Then you are right on the Jefferson Park-O'Hare Train, near the tollway as well. And you would actually have room for parking. Make it happen Trib! Let's not get crazy.

So is this like the 10th time Wrigley has been "ruined?"

Don't care.

I'm going to guess none. Hopefully he's on offense by next season. I'd have to agree. Put the kid on offense.

JRK is a major league ready starter? He's going to get destroyed in the AL East if they start him.

:roll: X 100

Don't care.

Not quite sure if Rufus will be there in round 2 for us. I'll be pissed if we take a TE, we didn't lose the Superbowl because of poor TE play. Yeah, I doubt it too. Before the workouts, though, we're all throwing darts. Clark was one of the more productive TE's in the league last year. Doubt we'll pick a TE. Especially considering we didn't last year.

A bunch of mock's I've seen have Da Bears taking a TE in the first and then Rufus Alexander in the second (Yes plz). Honeslty, I probably even be fine if we took Alexander in the first if we're sure Briggs isn't coming back. Doubt we go TE in round one.

You mean like McKnight saying that Bush called him a few times? The NCAA will do nothing, just like it did about Leinart and Jarrett and Bush. This rule is stupid anyway. It's kind of a lot to expect a football program to control what people outside the program are doing. While it may not be the case this time, if Reggie Bush just decided to call this kid and try to talk him into going to USC, how can USC stop him from doing that?