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  1. Why, because they're 1 Rusch win from the World Series? Well of course not but I would think Rusch is a better option then Hill is...No? I wouldn't think that myself. Rusch is proven, but all that he's proven is he's going to stink most of the time. Hill is unproven, but he brings the chance that he'll be good. I think we're arguing over the worst of two evils. Neither has much value, if we make it to the post season, it most likely won't be due to either of their contributions, and either of them would be considered a weak link in our rotation. Hill, Rusch, doesn't matter to me. Both are equally worthless. Now that was a good post and with that we should end the arguements of which medicore pitcher is better.
  2. Why, because they're 1 Rusch win from the World Series? Well of course not but I would think Rusch is a better option then Hill is...No?
  3. I don't know how to judge that. Pitching results in the Cactus League are pretty pointless. The last thing he needs is to be pushed too aggressively. Which, unfortunately, may happen with our glass rotation. IMO a couple months in Iowa would help his confidence but the big league club may need him to come out of the pen at least until Wood/Prior/Miller are ready. I would rather see Guzman at this point as that is the lesser of two evils to me. Putting Hill into the rotation would not be pushing aggressively. If you are worried about pushing then Guzman is the guy you don't want getting the job. You give the job to Hill because he has to get his feet wet now, and the alternatives are garbage pitchers like Rusch. Well I wouldn't call Rusch garbage. At least Rusch has shown he can be effective in the majors. I'd rather give the job the Rusch who has had success then too Hill how has proven nothing in 20 innings or so. We aren' t in the position to throw rookie pitchers out there to learn their craft for a couple of years.
  4. but that doesn't mean he can't be an effective pitcher. just b/c you can't consider him a prospect doesn't mean that his career is over at 26. How about putting the Hill dillemma in this context...none of us can predicte the future, so all we can do is analyze trends. How many pitchers who were struggling to break into the bigs at 26 that were relatively healthy up to that point wound up having a successful career? None come to mind. I'm not counting on Hill ever contributing anything to this organization. Doesn't mean he won't, but Hendry would be foolish not to trade him if an opportunity came along to trade him for a need. Well I don't think he could really get anything of value for Hill until he shows something. Might as well keep him and see what happens.
  5. I tend to agree with you. I hope he stays healthy finally. We've been waiting for this guy to get healthy for what seems like a decade! :wink:
  6. Who would you guys call up between Hill, Marshall and Guzman if need be? Very tough choice. BTW- Mid 3rd score is tied 5-5
  7. but that doesn't mean he can't be an effective pitcher. just b/c you can't consider him a prospect doesn't mean that his career is over at 26. I don't think he saying his career is over at 26, but you would think it would begin at 26.
  8. what? you don't expect a guy to go from A ball to a dominant big league starter in less than a calender year? He's 26 years old for god sakes. You make it seem he came right outta highschool. He pitched College ball.
  9. by the way, it's a lot easier to say that certain minor leaguers won't make it (as you've so deftly pointed out, most don't). why don't you rattle me off some guys that you think will make it? Not a problem. I see Sean Marshall as a bonafide major league starter. The other guys are still too young to judge. Of course Guzman is another but he needs to stay healthy for a year in the Minors.
  10. Well Maddux was 20 when he came up and Johnson is a power pitcher who normally mature late. Lets compare Maddux and Johnson at age 26. Wouldn't that be more fair?
  11. I'll say it right now Hill is destined to be a lefty Spicialist and a darn fine one at that. Unless he figures it out late in life, he is 26.
  12. and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball. damn it, hill...4-2. Defense and pitching wins. hey, if the cliche sounds good, it must be true. It's not a Cliche and you know it's true. Look at any world series winner the past 3-4 years and you will see Solid D and Great pitching. lets see how far back we have to go - Boston 2004 - shaky defense, decent pitching, great offense. They signficantly improved their defense @ the trade deadline with the additions of Mienkiewicz & Cabrera And don't forget they had Schilling and Pedro. And they improved their D at the break.
  13. I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch. He blew Vlad away with two FB's up in the zone. Big deal! He still gave up 2 runs in the first inning. Can you honestly say Rich Hill has impressed you. At all? 190+ k's in 130 minor league innings is pretty impressive. but apparently you're basing your judgment on what he's done since 2:00 today... C'mon the Minors are littered with great Minor League pitchers who never did squat in the Majors. I'm not basing my judgement on just today I'm basing my judgement on all the times I've seen him pitching in the bigs.
  14. and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball. damn it, hill...4-2. Defense and pitching wins. hey, if the cliche sounds good, it must be true. It's not a Cliche and you know it's true. Look at any world series winner the past 3-4 years and you will see Solid D and Great pitching.
  15. Yes, I honestly can. What's impressed you? Besides a good Curveball.
  16. Just needs to find control first and foremost.
  17. I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch. He blew Vlad away with two FB's up in the zone. Big deal! He still gave up 2 runs in the first inning. Can you honestly say Rich Hill has impressed you. At all?
  18. and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball. damn it, hill...4-2. Defense and pitching wins.
  19. I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.
  20. No one has ever said Walker can't hit, but his fielding is very suspect espically with the bad leg. Don't you view him as an more of a American League guy? His leg is fine. Regardless you have to agree his a bad defender... No I don't. I agree he leaves something to be desired, but I don't believe he is bad. He does not lose games with his glove (anymore than most others that is). I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.
  21. No one has ever said Walker can't hit, but his fielding is very suspect espically with the bad leg. Don't you view him as an more of a American League guy? His leg is fine. Regardless you have to agree his a bad defender...
  22. No one has ever said Walker can't hit, but his fielding is very suspect espically with the bad leg. Don't you view him as an more of a American League guy?
  23. You gotta love the way that Jones and ARAM been swinging the bat this spring. Hope it carries over for Jones.
  24. What are you saying? Don't you think that if I could change my favorite team I would pick some team like the Yankees? I can't because this team is my team. For better or worse I love this team...If you don't understand it you aren't a fan. I can't explain it to you any other way. I'm a Bears and Bulls fan but honestly I don't get emtionally attached as I do with the Cubs. I'm a casual fan all other sports except baseball.
  25. Good post! I'm a Cubs fan for life no matter what! I hear about these quiters every year as a Cubs fan and I pay them no attention because these aren't true Cubs fans. I'm a Cubs fan and proud of it! When we do win it all I'd rather be with the true fans who stuck by them and party it up with them, then these bandwagon jumper fans. Cubs are in my blood! Can't do anything about it. BASEBALL IS LIFE!
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