That's the kind of logic that led to letting go of Ramirez because adding 4 guys' WAR together could replace him. But with a five-man rotation, I think I'd rather have Arrieta, Liriano, McCarthy, Hendricks and No. 5 spot then Lester, Arrieta, Hendricks, Turner and Straily or other No. 5 spot. (Yes, I realize we should be able to get Lester AND one of them, but still). That, and I'm just not interested in giving a non-Clayton Kershaw $25 million per for that many years. If there is a great offensive option at that price, sure, but I'd rather have two quality pitchers than one really good one for that cost and the years. So you're not interested in ever signing a TOR pitcher. Fair enough I guess. Even Samardzija types are going to be getting that kind of money. I think that's fair to say. I would want Clayton Kershaw for that much at his age. But for the most part, just not interested in giving one pitcher that much money and that many years. Because whether we like it or not, that $25 million per season during those seven or eight years will prevent us from doing a lot of other things. I'm just not sure Lester is the guy to go all in on like that. Average cost of a win is now in the $7M range. So for $25M a year, you'd be looking for an average of about 3.5 fWAR per year. That's basically what guys like Kazmir, Kuroda, and Buehrle did last year. It doesn't take much anymore to justify it... just stay healthy and be 10% better than league average. (Obviously, significantly better pitchers don't need to stay quite so healthy to justify it.) I know it seems like a stupid amount of money (and it is), but these sorts of deals are perfectly reasonable in the current landscape.