I don't know how anybody could. There are, as I am loathe to admit, several guys on the Cardinals that are just about impossible to hate. Of course, that list doesn't include Matt Morris or Jim Edmonds. But I'm sure they make up for it for the rest of them, right? I have the same feeling about Lee, I have to admit that he seems like a decent guy. Now I just want to know how he ended up a Cub? :wink: Who do you hate then? Everyone on the Cubs is cool. We don't really have a Edmonds or Morris equivalent (Z has immunity from anything bad) and certainly not a Kline equivalent. Well Zambrano and Dusty are the only guys I would say qualify for the hate category. I'm not a fan of Garciapara either, but I wouldn't say I hate him. They are much more likeable than last years team, I'll give you that.