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pathetic, utterly pathetic nice to see ya poppin in for game threads though Bruce

i dunno, it'd be nice if its a focous thing and a change of approach could rectify the problem, i'm just not so sure that this is really it...the possibility remains that he could just not be loose in the first inning and needs to strech and warm up a bit more....i cant really say, neither can you for that matter....thats something that Mark's gonna have to figure out for himself, but clearly something needs to be done

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.i dunno, just a thought For me, it's not about increasing his IP, it's about limiting his workload throughout the season. You're only talking about increasing the IP while increasing the workload. i dunno, its pretty clear that i dont really know what i'm talking about...i'm mostly just playing devils advocate to see what others think. but really im thinking more along the lines of keeping the load in the same general neighborhood but getting more out of the same # of pitches

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.i dunno, just a thought But ultimately Prior is going to be throwing the same number of pitches in the game, just hopefully stretched out over more innings. There won't be any pitches saved by him being more effective. long innings contribute greatly to fatigue as well, its entirely possible that if these 30-40 pitch innings are eliminated, he may actually be able to throw more pitches in a game thus going even deeper into games

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.i dunno, just a thought

It's the Joe Girardi/Ron Coomer effect. When you have a bad hitter who is likely to ground into a DP, it's almost worth sacrificing the guy just to limit the outcome to 1 out instead of 2. Of course, you can always ask why a player like Neifi is anywhere near the 2 hole, but that's neither here nor there. really all this does is give up an out, take the bat outta Lee's hands and put Burnitz in a spot where he has the same DP opportunity except this DP opp is for the end of the inning. Granted it worked out this time, but more often than not it doesnt

how many times is johnny b gonna bunt runners over just so the opponents can walk Lee??? this bafoon is killing me!!!!

actually it is something that i was wondering about during his last 2 starts, although i really have no legitimate insight into the subject

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics? Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point. i hear ya, as ive given up on the seaso, the thing that frustrates me the most is all this talk of contract extensions. i'm not sure if i can handle 2 more years of this crap...if it happens i might have to change my name to 29yearsB4givingup(actually it would be 31 if i updated the actual years) I won't give up because Dickie V told me not to. Go Cubs!!!! now thats funny!!!

sorry to hijack your thread there daymen. i origonally read this thread to see what others thought about the topic. as i dont watch games anymore(sometimes listen on the radio) i cant really say much about the way that prior has been pitching, but i have noticed that he has been less than stellar in the first inning of late.

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics? Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point. i hear ya, as ive given up on the seaso, the thing that frustrates me the most is all this talk of contract extensions. i'm not sure if i can handle 2 more years of this crap...if it happens i might have to change my name to 29yearsB4givingup(actually it would be 31 if i updated the actual years)

i gotta say Cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

LMAO

It's a fair enough assessment, but one that I don't agree with. Is Tim operating this site at a loss financially? Breaking even? There really aren't all that many NSBB members paying for premium services, and if the ads go away due to lack of hits, what happens to NSBB if Tim gets tired of losing money? What if you or I had not yet been introduced to NSBB? Would we wish to be turned away because the site was comfortable with the membership where it's at? Even today, many people are still purchasing their first computers. True blue Cub fans who may or may not have things to add to this site. I enjoy reading VancetheCubFan's opinions about everything Cubs. He was a late arrival to this site. It's further proof that one didn't need to be in the click when this site formed to be able to offer something in return for their presence. No disrespect to any late arrivals that are not mentioned. NSBB, IMO, is still in the infancy stages. It's just now starting to bloom. I don't think it's anywhere close to what it can still become. And that's because this place has dedicated enough people that will go above and beyond their membership to make it a better place. Right now, we are getting attention from broadcasters, minor leaguers, sports journalists to name a few. 3 years ago, we got none of this. 1 year ago, we got very little of this. Now, we get a lot. We could eventually see daily interviews from players, management and ownership of these organizations and others. Let the moderators separate the diamonds from the poop. And let more and more fans experience a whole new way to enjoy or parish in all that is Cubs. That's the way I see it anyway. these are both excellent posts on this subject, i must say that with the increase in numbers here, my post frequency goes down, as well as my interest in increasing numbers of threads, but i do have to admit that it is nice to be getting the input from Cubs organization. anyway i guess my point is that guarded growth can only help us, ESPECIALLY if people pay for premium.

fantastic pic....i love how the woman seated next to the guy with the sign looks embarassed

He got hit right where the letter C is on the helmet. It looked bad but thankfully he was smiling a bit and seemed to be ok. Baker and the trainer were helping him walk. thanks, good to hear that he seemed OK

i've been out to dinner, can anyone tell me how bad the blow to Barretts head looked?

booo hisss!!!!

entirely too logical

didnt we already try this?

ive turned to the dark side....im rooting for anyone playing the cubs GO REDS!!!

Non-displaced fracture of the hand. Likely out for the year. Plans to play winter ball. well that just sucks the left one....i bet dusty is relieved to not have to take heat fo not playin him

any word on ronnie cedeno?

You do know you have to get a base to get the 10k right? :) Maybe you can take one for the team if you're doing it for the 10K, are ya really "taking one for the team?"

FINALLY a voice of reason! when i first started reading this thread i didnt even read the quote, 2 pages in i decided to go read the article in its entirety...WOW WAS I RELIEVED! this article is mere speculative crap, "contract matters...will be discussed in the spring" is McPhails canned answer for all contract questions. In fact there is NOT EVEN A DIRECT QUOTE FROM MacPhail IN THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. its too early to give up on '07 and '08....'06 maybe, unless dusty gets canned this offseason.... PERSONALLY I AM GOING TO CHOOSE TO INTERPRET MCPHAILS CANNED ANSWER TO READ, IM REALLY DISGUSTED WITH DUSTY BAKER BUT IM NOT GONNA HAMSTRING HIM WITH ONE MONTH LEFT IN THE SEASON....BUT BE SURE HE'S GONE IN THE OFFSEASON ok, im not really that optimistic, but i just dont see how one can take Andy's canned answer as "they will both be given extensions in the spring"