Agreed If you lived where I do, I doubt you would feel that way. And if you lived where I do, you probably would feel my way. Lots of Cardinal dislike here. I used to live less than an hour from where you are, and in Chicago, and was raised on hating the Cards. Astros fans are worse, and the few there are live around here. generally, they are the most ignorant, obnoxious, fairweather fans I have ever met. You've been to Busch?