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cbssportsline.com: Perhaps we just don't have the knowledge to bring someone back from shoulder surgery....

the more I hear Brenly talk the more I wish he was in the dugout instead of dusty.

greenies were for from illegal and still are not,but are currently banned in baseball...the trainer involved was only asked about a source for these...nothing more regardless of the name under the black ink... I hope you caught the segment on Countdown....I'll let that segment speak for me and reflect what I think is going on.

Not that its completely mental, but it does have that kind of ring to it. Notice how the day after the Dr. reassured him he threw and felt great. Hmmmm, I hope he's back soon, I would really love to see a strong push from Woody.

If Mihlfield is involved with the distribution of illegal drugs, you can't tell me that Pujols wouldn't have known that. I make that claim under the same rules of evidence that people accuse mgrs and gms of knowing which of their players are juicing. If nothing else, even if Pujols is not juicing, its a demostration of VERY bad judgment on Pujols part. VERY bad judgment.

what motivation does grimsley have to say someone isn't on it unless he's being threatened? Mihlfield has every motivation to say he was told he wasn't on it. You don't see the difference?

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended. this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly. That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong. by the way, I hope people dig all they want. I have no problem with that. But this is not that. This is a site saying a persons name is on an affidavit and the other person saying it is not at all. This will be proved either way. This is about a site posting a rumor and people jumping all aboard with no proof whatsoever...and then if his name is not there it doesn't matter because the damage is done... wait, you are saying that Mihlfield said his name isn't in the affidavit? How would he know? he didn't give the affidavit, and I doubt the authorities would come to him to reassure him that he wasn't named...so who cares what the trainer said? If I'm misunderstanding you then please explain who said that Mihlfield isn't in it, unless its Grimsley or the authorities, I wouldn't buy it. Did you read the latest article that was posted on here with Mihlfield denying all of this? He said Grimsley and his attorney told him his name was not on the affidavit at all. like I said until Grimsley says that he's not on it, I don't buy it. If I'm under that kind of pressure and guilty, I would freaking lie to get the media to back off. So I guess to me it doesn't prove he is and doesn't prove he isn't.

And the truth should set you free! it amazes me that dusty sees how damaging walks are for his pitchers, but can't grasp that his batters drawing walks would help immensely. That's an amazingly freakin' good point, man. I initially thought he was talking about his OWN guys walking....maybe that makes more sense! :D

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended. this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly. That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong. by the way, I hope people dig all they want. I have no problem with that. But this is not that. This is a site saying a persons name is on an affidavit and the other person saying it is not at all. This will be proved either way. This is about a site posting a rumor and people jumping all aboard with no proof whatsoever...and then if his name is not there it doesn't matter because the damage is done... wait, you are saying that Mihlfield said his name isn't in the affidavit? How would he know? he didn't give the affidavit, and I doubt the authorities would come to him to reassure him that he wasn't named...so who cares what the trainer said? If I'm misunderstanding you then please explain who said that Mihlfield isn't in it, unless its Grimsley or the authorities, I wouldn't buy it.

He denied involvement, that should be no surprise. Palmeiro told all of America he had never used steriods. Period. We all know how his story ended. this is different. It has been rumored his name was in the affidavit. That is where all of this started. He is saying his name is not in the affidavit at all...it is easy to prove one way or the other unlike other things. Either his name is there or it isn't...I have seen somewhere else that the number of spaces crossed out does not even add up to the amout of letters in his name...let the rumors fly. That's not exaclty a scientific conclusion you have come up with. If by his denial you believe people will just stop digging into him and his relatioship with Pujols you are wrong. Deadspins article was even less of a scientific conclusion, but here we are... it is really simple...either it is his name listed or it isn't, right? If his name is not there and he says it is not isn't that enough? We know the name that is there will come out, hopefully soon, so it makes no sense for him to say his name is not there if it really is... Mike Sweeney was just on the radio as well (Mihlfield was his trainer as well) and said this about Mihfield and Albert. "I would bet every last penny that they are not guilty of any wrong doing." I believe Sweeney is suspected of having the same "relationship" with mihlfield, so that doesn't surprise me that Rafael Sweeney would say that.

there are other things that can prove someone's guilt besides a test. Especially since the faithful of whatever player tests positive will just claim the test was wrong/tampered/inaccurate/poorly handled. This era where people outside the legal world need to actually SEE the wrong doing is getting old. Unless I'm on a jury I live by the saying "If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck" And to the person who said "people have rights" BS they have no rights that prevent me from thinking they are a cheat, the only right they have is that I have to prove they are a cheat before I send them to jail. In the mean time I don't have to 'wait' for all the evidence to come out, I'm free to change my mind as more evidence comes forward, I'm not a legal body. (much to most people's delight!)

I'd be disappointed if this proved to be true, but not shocked. His home run rate before he got hurt this year was Bonds-ian. and the way he got hurt is just really odd? didn't it strike anyone else that he pulled a side muscle while running? I would expect that on a hard swing and a miss maybe, but it seems odd the way it happened. I wouldn't be surprised but I'm not accusing yet.

I don't know why some here can't take a fun question and just have fun with it. Its a good point and I would have thought we were well in the race....sucks that all the other stuff happened. You're right. I should follow some other team that doesn't make me want to stab myself in the forehead with a ballpoint pen most of the time. Me too.

I don't know why some here can't take a fun question and just have fun with it. Its a good point and I would have thought we were well in the race....sucks that all the other stuff happened.

because if he had started with his .308 v. lefties baker wouldn't have been able to accomplish this: and four of those six were at or well below the mendoza line.

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hiring Oquendo would be enough for me to turn the cubs off for good. I can't stand that guy.

wow, I guess I'm really surprised by the number of people (all!) who don't care how we win the series as long as we do.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you spend like the Yankees you spend more than just money, I think you sacrifice your dignity, your sportsmanship, your honor. That's all based off my belief that its not sporting to have a payroll twice as high as the nearest competitor, and some unwritten force is what defines sporting to me. I know that there are those that say if you can afford it you should do it, or if others aren't willing to spend you should, I just think sportsmanship is more than just following the rules.

So if we went out and bought the best player at every position, we were expected to win the series because our payroll is $100 million more than the next team, you would feel just as satisfied with that title as if we did it with an intelligent budget, good role players and the right mix of power and avg? Not even a little bit of the shine would come of the victory? I wouldn't care either way, BUT I would prefer to win with a likeable group of guys (a team unlike the 2004 team). Whether the Cubs buy those players or develop them, it really doesn't matter. I guess the 2004 team is probably what scares me the most. I would have been happy to win that year but not as happy as the 2003 team. Perhaps is tied less to payroll and more toward likability. There is still a cheap feeling about winning the series with a team that has twice the payroll as the next team.

I'm not sure the GM's between Santo and Ramirez would agree!

So if we went out and bought the best player at every position, we were expected to win the series because our payroll is $100 million more than the next team, you would feel just as satisfied with that title as if we did it with an intelligent budget, good role players and the right mix of power and avg? Not even a little bit of the shine would come of the victory?

This came up in another thread but it got me wondering how many people would make the distinction between buying a world series and earning one. Personally I would feel bitter sweet about a world series win with a $200 million payroll. I would be ecstatic because I'm a huge cubs fan and it would just be amazing to finally win one, however I would feel dirty knowing that we did it in a way that is considered just short of cheating (I'm not sure if that is even the right wording but i think most of you get my point) so the question is do you care HOW the cubs win a world series?

There are ways around the salary cap in the NBA which is why the New York Knicks can have a team salary of $123 million. Dallas is second in the NBA at $96 million. I'm not sure on the rules but I know there are ways around it. The NFL has a strict salary cap and there is no way around it. I just don't see how the trib is the reason for the current crappy team outside of their support of andy MacPhail. it seems to me that they are more than willing to spend money, they just have an admin that spends it stupidly. I don't think their current payroll is the problem, its how they spent that money. Now if you want to say they should replace MacPhail because he hasn't replaced Hendry maybe i would agree, but generally when things go this bad the firing starts at the bottom and works its way up, so I guess I don't know any organization that would have removed MacPhail already. Besides I don't want to be the Yankees. I hate the Yankees. I wouldn't mind being the Yankees of '97 where alot of their players came from their farm team, but there is no way I would support a $200 million payroll team. and any such team that won the Series would certainly be a bitter sweet win for me. I have to disagree. The Trib has shareholders to answer to and as long as they can point to the Cubs as a money-maker, than they really have no reason to get rid of MacPhail because they are making money. Now if they were TRULY interested in a World Series winner, than MacPhail and his crew will be fired. Any owner interested in winning the World Series would have fired MacPhail after 11 years of failing to attain that goal. Even reaching the World Series. And who cares if the Cubs go the Yankee route to winning a title? Isn't 98 years of failure enough? I honestly don't know why anyone would be aganist Cuban buying the Cubs. The Trib have had 25 years and I think they have proved they don't know how to do it. I think so too. And the whole "top 5 payroll" thing really doesn't work anymore. They've shown they'll spend money, yes. But it doesn't mean they spend it the right way, or that they have the knowledge to make that money work for them. Plus, I don't like having a faceless corporation running the Cubs. MacPhail isn't really in charge. It's some board committe or something. I don't think that's the best arrangement for a Pro Sports franchise. I don't want to buy a Cubs world series, I want to earn one. and I agree that the Trib's main concern is making money, but really the Trib isn't the one signing the players. The Trib has given MacPhail and Hendry more than enough money to put together a great team, they just haven't spent the money right. I can't believe that with a 90 million investment in a payroll that there isn't some kind of pressure coming from the Trib onto MacPhail, but like I said, in ANY corporation you are not gonna see MacPhail fired before Baker and Hendry, because MacPhail is doing his job, he is providing his GM and Coach with enough money to field a winning team while still providing the Trib with a profit. That's his job. This ALL comes down to hendry and Baker, not MacPhail and the Trib, the only fault that could be placed on MacPhail is that he hasn't acted quickly enough to remove Hendry. But that happens alot in the business world, Hell even Donald Trump has said its taken him years to fire a guy he knew he needed to fire.

There are ways around the salary cap in the NBA which is why the New York Knicks can have a team salary of $123 million. Dallas is second in the NBA at $96 million. I'm not sure on the rules but I know there are ways around it. The NFL has a strict salary cap and there is no way around it. I just don't see how the trib is the reason for the current crappy team outside of their support of andy MacPhail. it seems to me that they are more than willing to spend money, they just have an admin that spends it stupidly. I don't think their current payroll is the problem, its how they spent that money. Now if you want to say they should replace MacPhail because he hasn't replaced Hendry maybe i would agree, but generally when things go this bad the firing starts at the bottom and works its way up, so I guess I don't know any organization that would have removed MacPhail already. Besides I don't want to be the Yankees. I hate the Yankees. I wouldn't mind being the Yankees of '97 where alot of their players came from their farm team, but there is no way I would support a $200 million payroll team. and any such team that won the Series would certainly be a bitter sweet win for me.