FINAL SCORE (2) Metallica-45 (7) The Clash-36

[treebird]

I shall continue stealing music, you shall continue rolling your eyes. Such is life.

 

I'd post a song or two on the board that I like from bands that I'm currently listening to, but I'd hate to be accused of facilitating someone's larceny, so I shan't.

 

and i'm sure if you could steal gas anonymously on the internet you would to. I doubt you have the balls to go steal a CD from Best Buy

 

what does that even mean

 

it means he's going to justify stealing by saying that he only downloads imports or live stuff or rarities or whatever. First the "I hate the RIAA" excuse then another. Stealing is stealing

 

the part in bold still makes no sense.

[Derwood]

I shall continue stealing music, you shall continue rolling your eyes. Such is life.

 

I'd post a song or two on the board that I like from bands that I'm currently listening to, but I'd hate to be accused of facilitating someone's larceny, so I shan't.

 

and i'm sure if you could steal gas anonymously on the internet you would to. I doubt you have the balls to go steal a CD from Best Buy

 

what does that even mean

 

it means he's going to justify stealing by saying that he only downloads imports or live stuff or rarities or whatever. First the "I hate the RIAA" excuse then another. Stealing is stealing

 

the part in bold still makes no sense.

 

it means it's easy for him to steal via an anonymous ptp or bit torrent when he would never actually steal from a store. When you shoplift, it's clearly stealing. When it's computer data, it's easy to start naming it other things to ease your conscience

[Tracer Bullet]

But you see, when I steal music, no phyiscal property is taken.

 

I fail to see how that is relevant.

 

If I were to steal a CD from Best Buy, the store would be out money because it has to pay for the CD. When I download an album, no money is lost, because if I couldn't hear this music for free, I certainly wouldn't be paying for it.

 

And that's just a load of crap. When you buy a CD, it's not the disc you hold that's being purchased for $12. It's the right to have a copy of that music for personal use. When you listen to music you didn't pay for, you're making use of something that you don't have any right to. So you're stealing. The owner of the music, and/or all those that have a right to share in profits lose money. The fact that you claim that you're stealing music you wouldn't otherwise buy is speculation and irrelevant.

[J.R.]

But you see, when I steal music, no phyiscal property is taken.

 

I fail to see how that is relevant.

 

If I were to steal a CD from Best Buy, the store would be out money because it has to pay for the CD. When I download an album, no money is lost, because if I couldn't hear this music for free, I certainly wouldn't be paying for it.

 

And that's just a load of crap. When you buy a CD, it's not the disc you hold that's being purchased for $12. It's the right to have a copy of that music for personal use. When you listen to music you didn't pay for, you're making use of something that you don't have any right to. So you're stealing. The owner of the music, and/or all those that have a right to share in profits lose money. The fact that you claim that you're stealing music you wouldn't otherwise buy is speculation and irrelevant.

 

Excellent.