Cubs Interested in Juan Soto?

12 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Boy, I just don't see that being enough. I could see 10 teams happily making that trade with an equivalent player, which means that price is way off.

Soto is a 5+ win player due to make about $30m on a one-year deal. Lots of teams would take that on for a single season.

25 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Boy, I just don't see that being enough. I could see 10 teams happily making that trade with an equivalent player, which means that price is way off.

Soto is a 5+ win player due to make about $30m on a one-year deal. Lots of teams would take that on for a single season.

This is AJ Preller we are talking about and we don't know what he is looking for other than to cut salary. 

1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Boy, I just don't see that being enough. I could see 10 teams happily making that trade with an equivalent player, which means that price is way off.

Soto is a 5+ win player due to make about $30m on a one-year deal. Lots of teams would take that on for a single season.

I do not want to go too far in the direction of saying that Morel is a special flower, but I think this overstates how many teams have a player with his characteristics(pre-arb, proven standard of production, some optimism for improvement) that isn't an untradeable cornerstone, along with having the money to pay Soto plus the need to prioritize him over other additions, and being in a competitive cycle where they'd give that player up for potentially one year of him.

38 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I do not want to go too far in the direction of saying that Morel is a special flower, but I think this overstates how many teams have a player with his characteristics(pre-arb, proven standard of production, some optimism for improvement) that isn't an untradeable cornerstone, along with having the money to pay Soto plus the need to prioritize him over other additions, and being in a competitive cycle where they'd give that player up for potentially one year of him.

 

I’m not bashing Morel at all, I just think plenty other teams would jump at that price. Yankees, Dodgers, Rangers, Phillies, Astros, Mariners, maybe Mets off the top of my head. And there are some mid-market teams like the Cardinals and Twins who shouldn’t be counted out when it comes to sneaking into blockbuster deals. 

Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

I’m not bashing Morel at all, I just think plenty other teams would jump at that price. Yankees, Dodgers, Rangers, Phillies, Astros, Mariners, maybe Mets off the top of my head. And there are some mid-market teams like the Cardinals and Twins who shouldn’t be counted out when it comes to sneaking into blockbuster deals. 

Some of those teams don't have a Morel caliber piece to offer in trade(Yankees and Mets for starters), others are not going to be spending big dollars on a bat over pitching(Cardinals, Phillies), some are less likely to pay a Morel-sized price for a potential 30 million dollar rental(Twins, Astros), and others still may be investing more time and energy in the pursuit of Ohtani(Dodgers, Mariners).  Again, the takeaway is not that the only reasonable outcome is Soto going to the Cubs for Morel, but rather that the practical reality of the situation is that something centered around Morel is much closer to the best offer that gets put forward than it might appear.  Fit is going to make a bigger difference than the average sell trade because the Padres are not giving up on competing for the next several years and prioritizing prospects(which would make the return more fungible across teams).

2 hours ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Some of those teams don't have a Morel caliber piece to offer in trade(Yankees and Mets for starters), others are not going to be spending big dollars on a bat over pitching(Cardinals, Phillies), some are less likely to pay a Morel-sized price for a potential 30 million dollar rental(Twins, Astros), and others still may be investing more time and energy in the pursuit of Ohtani(Dodgers, Mariners).  Again, the takeaway is not that the only reasonable outcome is Soto going to the Cubs for Morel, but rather that the practical reality of the situation is that something centered around Morel is much closer to the best offer that gets put forward than it might appear.  Fit is going to make a bigger difference than the average sell trade because the Padres are not giving up on competing for the next several years and prioritizing prospects(which would make the return more fungible across teams).

I kinda disagree on the price but agree that it will likely come down to fit. The Padres aren't going to give up in the short-term and it will ultimately come down to what Preller thinks will most help the team in a 2024-2027 window.