And then compare 93-98 to 03-08. That's it? That Tubby was worse than Pitino? What a revelation. You can't seriously expect any coach to duplicate that Pitino stretch (which, by the way, your stretch includes a National Title won by Tubby). It's completely unrealistic. Tubby wasn't as good as Pitino -- but UK kept with that theme in also replacing Tubby with an inferior coach. Still, from 2003-08, Kentucky went 131-40 overall, 61-19 in the SEC, won two SEC regular season titles, two SEC tournament titles, one 16-0 (19-0 actually) SEC season, two elite eights and no first-round NCAA tournament losses. Again, it had to be real rough on Kentucky during that stretch. Never said it was rough, it wasn't good enough though. UK won't be as good as they were when I was there and I'm not expecting that, but they should do better than what they have rbeen ecently. Whether or not that can happen under Gillespie remains to be seen. If anyone here can't see that that is message I'm trying to convey rather than judge every coach by the standard of Pitino is their own stupidity and not mine. dude, when uk was up next on the schedule i as a louisville fan was always worried, not because its a rivalry game and anything can happen, but because tubby smith is a damn good basketball coach, especially when it came to bench coaching. talent can get you so far. coaching has a lot to do with it. so what if billy clyde can recruit, it doesn't look like he can coach worth crap right now, that's for sure. i don't know much about kentucky basketball (other than most of their fans are completely over the top with out of this world expectations) but i do know that san diego and virginia millitary institute would never have happened under tubby.