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  1. Hairyducked Idiot
    That's fair, but then the field-goal rule is clearly similar. Distinction without difference. All three examples are players illegally defending an attempt to score. I think the baseball example is the most analogous: throwing your glove or hat at a ball leaving the park results in a home run being awarded. How about just any flagrant handball by the last defender inside the six-yard box that stops a ball that was heading into the net. Somehow, rugby, football, baseball, basketball and hockey get along with similar rules.
  2. Hairyducked Idiot
    Because you can't know for sure if the player was going to catch the ball. As has been said, football *does* award points for scoring plays prevented by unfair acts. Including a field goal about to go through that is knocked away illegally at the last second. A soccer player about to get a breakaway = pass interference. A ball about to go into the net != pass interference
  3. Hairyducked Idiot
    Oh, and in rugby they can send you off with a red card, and they also award penalty tries when one team egregiously or repeatedly stops a try with illegal actions.
  4. Hairyducked Idiot
    Fair point, but in soccer there still exists situations where that penalty is meaningless. It's sort of like the old hockey rule loophole where a coach was down to a 5-on-3 but kept sending too many men on the ice in the closing minute anyway, because all they could do was blow the whistle when they touched the puck and put another guy in the box.
  5. Hairyducked Idiot
    How is it not the same as goaltending? I don't know why people are acting like this is so unheard of. In hockey, if a player is pulled down from behind on a breakaway with an empty net, the goal is awarded. In baseball, if a player illegally tries to field the ball by throwing his glove or a piece of clothing at him, a triple is awarded. If the ball was going out of the park, a home run is awarded. In football, if a team goaltends a field goal, 3 points are awarded. If they commit, in the judgment of the ref, a "palpably unfair act" to stop a touchdown, the touchdown is awarded.
  6. Hairyducked Idiot
    Apparently, it happened in 1962 and the rule was changed in 1963 to address it. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y2VUJqZ8YCg/SxadfBRLAiI/AAAAAAAAADo/X8j12wR-RRQ/s1600-h/RC-Owens.jpg (don't know why the image link won't work. just go to this link, it's a cool photo: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Y2VUJqZ8YCg/SxadfBRLAiI/AAAAAAAAADo/X8j12wR-RRQ/s1600-h/RC-Owens.jpg) Some examples of the history of NFL and NCAA football rules involving unfair acts: http://quirkyresearch.blogspot.com/2009/12/blogging-nfl-rule-book-palpably-unfair.html From the NFL summary of penalties http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries
  7. Hairyducked Idiot
    Imagine if goaltending just got you free throws instead of the basket. On a last-second play, up by three, you could just have your big guy stick his hand up through the basket. That would let missed shots still miss, knock out shots going in, and force them to make three free throws instead. That would be comparable to what happened here. Of course the chance to take a PK is worth far more in soccer than any individual field goal in basketball is. The chance to take the PK is a chance to replace exactly what was lost, no more or less. That is the exact same thing free throws in basketball.
  8. Hairyducked Idiot
    Take it up with the NFL. I don't blame Uruguay for doing what the rules dictated they should do. Any smart team would. Fix the rules so that cheating isn't the smart play.
  9. Hairyducked Idiot
    Imagine if goaltending just got you free throws instead of the basket. On a last-second play, up by three, you could just have your big guy stick his hand up through the basket. That would let missed shots still miss, knock out shots going in, and force them to make three free throws instead. That would be comparable to what happened here.
  10. Hairyducked Idiot
    Football does have situations where the referee awards points when the other team does something blatantly illegal to prevent an obvious score. If a player goaltends a field goal, for instance, or if a coach or sideline player interferes. Actually, I think the NFL rules not only provide specific directions like that, they give the referee blanket powers to award points in any situation he feels that it is necessary to restore the fairness of the game.
  11. Hairyducked Idiot
    It's a red card and a PK. It's a big enough advantage. It still encourages players to blatantly cheat in situations like this.
  12. Hairyducked Idiot
    Intentional goal-line handballs should be goals. Bad rule.
  13. Hairyducked Idiot
    Of the top-earners in sports endorsements, how many of them are based in New York?
  14. Hairyducked Idiot
    I could be wrong, but I'd really think if someone were going to make a big offer sheet to Hjalmarsson or Niemi, they would have done it already.
  15. Hairyducked Idiot
    In-season with Huet in the minors. I might be a little off, but I'm assuming Huet just takes up the 10% you can go over in the offseason, because we can't waive him until the season starts. But a lot of the cheap young guys don't count until the season starts, so we should be fine.
  16. Hairyducked Idiot
    Does that take the Huet situation into account? Yes. Here's the closest I can get on capgeek, and that's being optimistic on Hjalmarsson and Niemi's resigning costs. Some of the cheaper young players may not make the team, I'm just using them as a proxy for a cheap player. Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000 Patrick Kane — $6,300,000 Marian Hossa — $5,275,000 Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000 Dave Bolland — $3,375,000 Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000 Kyle Beach ($325,000) $1,170,833 Marty Reasoner — $1,150,000 Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000 * Jack Skille — $900,000 Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000 Jake Dowell — $525,000 * Bryan Bickell — $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Brian Campbell — $7,142,875 Duncan Keith — $5,538,462 Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000 * Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,000,000 Brian Connelly ($287,500) $875,000 Jonathan Carlsson — $565,000 John Scott — $512,500 GOALTENDERS * Antti Niemi — $2,250,000 * Hannu Toivonen — $600,000 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY $4,190,000 CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $59,400,000 PAYROLL $60,644,670 BONUSES $677,500 CAP SPACE $-567,170
  17. Hairyducked Idiot
    Professional athletes are competitive. Salary is just another number they are trying to win at. They aren't going to take less 99.9% of the time.
  18. Hairyducked Idiot
    Fiddling around on Capgeek, if the $55.2 figure is right, we are still about 2 million over if we retain everyone. :( Sharp or Bolland or Hjalmarsson are probably gone.
  19. Hairyducked Idiot
    Almost all of them are a year or two away. Stralberg can probably play right now, maybe one of the D. But with so many of them, the chances are pretty good at least one of them has a breakout camp.
  20. Hairyducked Idiot
    No. 7 D and pure enforcer, nothing more
  21. Hairyducked Idiot
    I'm very positive about the offseason right now. If we lose Sharp, Bolland or Hjalmarsson, I'll be very disappointed. Niemi can go, though, if he's signed to a big offer sheet or gets a big arbitration award.
  22. Hairyducked Idiot
    Even fantastic teams need luck to never get beat 4 out of 7 against other good teams.
  23. Hairyducked Idiot
    I agree with the latter part of your post about reloading, but I don't know if I can predict next year. Obviously we're a playoff team with our top lines, and we've kept the D mostly in tact, assuming we keep Hammer. But considering how close the margin of error was in the Vancouver and SJ series....we won out with our depth. We could have lost both of those series last year...now all that depth is gone. I don't think I can predict how well we'll go until midway through the year. The margin of error is always narrow in hockey, though. I don't think it's as simple as "it was close and we lost a player so now we'll lose." We were a good team that caught some breaks and a hot streak, and we'll need to do that again.
  24. Hairyducked Idiot
    Right now, I'd say we still look to be a match for the contenders in the conference. We're no longer clearly superior to teams like Vancouver, but we're still even with them. And that's a one-year reload and then back to dominance next year, imo.
  25. Hairyducked Idiot
    Sorry, no, the Thrashers system is No. 7 overall, and he is their No. 2 prospect. The depth in the Blackhawks system is insane right now. They will be up to the gills in NHL-quality players for years. Not first-pairing or first-line guys, but solid guys like Versteeg and Ladd and Byfuglien were for us.
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