The fact that there is actually a debate on the topic is pretty remarkable.
You’d think the first point, as well as a few other things, would kind of eliminate the second.
Pitcher was yet to throw it in the zone- one was called a strike, that wasn’t in the zone, batter swings at ball, flies out weakly to LF. Baserunner gets thrown out going to second.
Cubs baseball.
The Cubs, quite frankly, strange, decade long infatuation with pitchers that don’t miss bats shortened the championship window and keeps them chasing mediocrity during the Jed era. It needs to end.