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lol nice dump [expletive]

i'd be thrilled with a point at this point

khabibulin is trash again

oh look brian campbell is skating backwards after the guy is already past him with the puck

great kill

wtf was that

he had a point

god huet is garbage. we need khabi in there oh and i predict the hawks lose this one by at least 2

what is happening

Colvin shouldn't be much of a surprise given his 1st round status based on his performance in tenn over the past 2 years it would be

it's not based on just 2009

that was a 5 on 3, right?

Marquis is having a nightmarish spring. He gave up 12 runs today (11 earned) in 3.1 IP. This is after a combined 11 ER in his previous 2 starts. His spring ERA is 14.14 (22 ER) through 4 starts.

More like 2 horrific seasons. 2005 wasn't horrific If it wasn't for Lee, it would have been. even if lee put up his normal numbers i still don't think it would have been horrific. bad, yes

i think you are jake fox

that's because he happened to have two good years when nobody else was that good. schilling had years where he was just as good as glavine, but had the misfortune of pitching when randy johnson and pedro were even better. and johan in 2004. if randy johnson and johan santana didn't combine for 3 of the best season of all time in a 4 year span, schilling would have 3 cy youngs

More like 2 horrific seasons. 2005 wasn't horrific

No, it's nothing like that. Nobody with any sense of logic would think so. If you got in a car accident because you were drunk, you have a problem. If you hurt yourself while drinking to the point of not being able to perform your job, you have problem. I don't know how you can criticize my logic when you're saying a person who happened to slip and fall while drinking automatically has a drinking problem. I'll ask you this again. Do you EVER drink? Isn't it true that you could easily slip and hurt your leg while drunk, just as you could do it while sober? Answer me those questions. Slipping and falling while intoxicated doesn't mean you have a drinking problem. It means you're unlucky. Saying otherwise is completely ridiculous and you know it.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. I said he doesn't have a track record of sustained success worthy of a guaranteed job. Contract situations are the only reason he's nearly a lock. He has filled in admirably as a starter, but he's also pitched fairly unimpressively for stretches. Since hurting himself while drunk last year. His lack of top talent, the reason he's not a starting pitcher or a top notch reliever, suggests he's just another inconsistent arm. Overall performance is far more important than how those numbers were achieved. How many leage average pitchers aren't inconsistent? What does that even mean? Where does it come from? The fact that he was bad for like 8 innings when he was with the Cubs. Pushing aside a huge sample ize worth of numbers because "he's inconsistent" sounds a lot like you're tryong to find ways to talk him down.

I've seen at least one person that said he wished they'd get rid of Gaudin for patton if "somebody picked up part of the tab on him". Meaning he'd be okay with even eating part of Gaudin's contract just to get rid of him. Either way, the debate is whether or not Gaudin helps this team more than Patton.

He was a god awful drunk who entered Lou's doghouse immediately and hasn't shown any glimmer of hope since. A god awful drunk? Where does this stuff even come from? There's a rumor about his injury happeneing when he was drunk and suddenly he's a drunk? Adults are allowed to drink guys. A god awful pitcher who is a drunk. He's a drunk because he got injured drinking. I'm all for boozing it up, but when it gets in the way of your work, you have a problem. C'mon dude. He happened to get hurt when when he was supposedly drinking. That means he's a drunk? How many players drink from time to time? A LOT. Any one of them could have slipped and fallen while they were drunk. Calling Gaudin a drunk because of one incident is not fair at all. It's ridiculous. What if you slipped while drunk and couldn't work for the next couple weeks. Would that mean you have a problem and are a drunk? No, it would just mean you got unlucky. Gaudin is no different from anybody else. If your drinking leads to problems at work or family life, you have a drinking problem. Dude. Lol what? You make no sense. You said "I'm all for boozing it up". Okay, so let's say you drink from time to time... meaning you don't have a problem. Isn't it true that you could slip and fall during any of those times and hurt your leg? If that happened that wouldn't suddenly mean you have a problem. That's just ridiculous. That's like saying someone has a drinking problem because they got in a car accident on the way to the store to buy beer for a party.

Gaudin's performance has been very inconsistent. I don't have love for Patton, I dislike veteran relievers assured of spots despite horrible performances because of contract situations. Again, Gaudin has 449 career innings that show he is NOT horrible. It shows that he is about league average and can go from the pen to the rotation. That has value, especially on this team. I don't think people realize how thin our starting pitching depth could get in a real hurry. You can't go trading away guys that are proven to be average in that role just because you want to make way for a guy with good spring training numbers. You disputed the statement that he doesn't have a track record of sustained success. He's been inconsistent. And ever since he became a Cub, he's sucked. Middle reliever types and the kind of guys who occasional spot start, guys who aren't good enough to start on a regular basis in the rotation or be lockdown relievers, are notoriously inconsistent. The fact that his average performance in the majors has been relatively average doesn't change anything. That doesn't real make any sense. He's proven to be league avaerage for an extended period of time. Whether he's consistent or not doesn't change that. It sounds like you're looking for ways to discredit him. 449 innings worth of numbers is 449 innings worth of numbers. You ewant to throw that away because of a tiny portion of that in which you happened to watch. You're not recognizing sample size. And saying that he sucked since he came to the Cubs is just incorrect. He was great in his first 19.2 innings with the team..... with a 2.75 ERA, a WHIP under 1, and a 21/5 K/B. Then he sucked in his last 7.2 innings, most of which came after the injury.

why do we KNOW that glavie is a HOFer? because he has racked up a high total of a team stat due to playing on great teams? glavine doesn't belong in the same category as RJ and Maddux

Gaudin's performance has been very inconsistent. I don't have love for Patton, I dislike veteran relievers assured of spots despite horrible performances because of contract situations. Again, Gaudin has 449 career innings that show he is NOT horrible. It shows that he is about league average and can go from the pen to the rotation. That has value, especially on this team. I don't think people realize how thin our starting pitching depth could get in a real hurry. You can't go trading away guys that are proven to be average in that role just because you want to make way for a guy with good spring training numbers.

Not really. Throwing away a guy who can start with a proven league average ERA for a 24 year old reliever who can't get past A+ just because he had a good spring training would be an awful, awful move. Seriously guys, these are spring training numbers. Rocky Cherry.