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    or 2008
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    Is Andrew Cashner our best startng pitching prospect since Prior?
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    Oh, so David Price did it, so just throw all other practices out the window. Seriously dude?
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    Wow... if that isn't one of the best examples I've ever seen of pulling an argument out of your ass just to argue a crappy perspective... :-)) :-)) Hey bud the wear and tear a guy puts on his arm is the same pitching in AAA as it is in MLB. If Cashner is ready to get bigleague hitters out, then keeping him in the minors is just wasting miles. Do you understand that if he wants to be a starter, his arm is going to need to be stretched out? Cashner only pitched 120 innings the last 2 seasons combined. Cashner. needs. innings.
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    People vastly overstate how bad every move actually is. It's the NSBB way. Standard irrelevant post from davearm.
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    He also whined about Brian Wilson- http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Brian-Wilson-isn-t-very-happy-with-Casey-Blake-r?urn=mlb,162567&cp=15 There was also another thing like this he cried about last year or the year before, but I can't remember what it was. Casey Blake likes to whine a lot.
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    Cashner needs innings.
  8. 17 Seconds
    awesome quotes there
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    so embarrassing
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    oh my god it would be soooo amazing
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    haha @ doc rivers screaming at him to get up and then slowly realizing there was something wrong
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    wtf is going on with davis? that looked insane
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    also pujols is really good at sports
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    Stop pretending like ERA doesn't matter. If we're examining four seasons of stats, it's a valid way of arguing a pitcher's decline. no it's not. pretty much every other stat has been pretty consistent over that period. Like what, WHIP? WHIP doesn't always tell the whole story either (Example: If you allow a line drive triple off the wall it counts the same as an infield single). His homers allowed have increased the past two seasons, and he is obviously not stranding as many runners on base. Both of those things matter. Some 05-09 stats on Oswalt K/9 6.9 6.8 6.5 7.1 6.8 WHIP 1.20 1.17 1.33 1.18 1.24 H/9 9.0 9.0 9.4 8.6 9.1 LD% 21.8 19.9 16.0 20.5 21.1 The only thing that's really gone up are his home run totals, but not by a huge amount. If there's a decline it's pretty small Why even pay attention to ERA when there are so many better stats that actually tell you something? ERA tells you very little. Besides, his low ERA in those years you were talking about probably should have been a bit higher anyways.
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    his twitter is remarkable
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    NYou imply that the only reason why the Sharks lost was because of luck, bad breaks, etc, etc. No I didn't. Let me explain this one last time. Games 1, 3, and 4 were played evenly enough where either team could have won each game. I'm NOT saying that the hawks didn't deserve to win, or that they got lucky. The Hawks made the plays. Niemi made the saves. We were better and we deserved to win each one. I'm not saying anything that suggests otherwise. We WON those games, the Sharks didn't lose them. However, we did not dominate them, at all, in any of those 3 games. They were close games and the Hawks were a little better and prevailed in the end. I am to an extent, but I don't see what the problem is with that. All I'm saying is that they hung with us more than the 4-0 sweep would suggest. I really don't see why that's unnacceptable to say. I'm not taking anything away from the Hawks at all. I just think you're selling the Sharks really short. If anything, I'm giving the Hawks MORE credit with what I'm saying. The Sharks showed up this series and played pretty well overall, and we STILL swept them. Sweeping the Sharks when they were close to their best is more impressive than if they had just choked and gotten crushed.
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    't ha It doesn't matter if they "skated right with the Hawks for 3 of the 4 games", what matters is they didn't get the job done. Defend them all you want, but don't use the excuse that the Sharks didn't have the luck and that is why they lost. Good, great teams can overcome bad luck, the Sharks didn't. The simple truth is...the Sharks played well enough as a whole, outside of Thornton and Heatley (so help me gawd, if people use the "injury excuse", I will scream. every team is dealing with injuries.) but Niemi had his coming out party. The Sharks did skate with the Hawks, they couldn't finished the job, thx in part to Niemi. So the crux of the debate is dex, you think Sharks were snake-bitten and that they could have won any and all of those games. That is true, but the Hawks capitalize on the breaks, Sharks didn't, luck and injuries be damned. I NEVER said the Sharks were snake bitten or that the Hawks don't deserve everything they got, yet you keep acting like I have. Once again, I'm not arguing anything you said in this post. (other than heatley... he had a serious groin injury in the Colorado series. Not the type of injury that "every team has" this time of year) You just continue to miss the point.
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    Pretty much how I feel. Game 1, 2, and 4 were right there for the Sharks to win. Niemi was the biggest difference, and the Hawks skaters made a few more plays and a couple fewer mistakes. Game 2 was the one game where I thought they flat out dominated... especially in the 3rd when they slowed down play and just allowed SJ nothing at all. I'm not saying the Hawks didn't deserve to sweep. They earned all 4 games for sure. Just saying that the Sharks skated right with us all series.
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    I've never implied you were insulting the Hawks. If you took it that way, then I'm sorry, but that wasn't what I was trying to say. To me, it seemed you were trying to defend the Sharks. The reality is, how the Sharks played against the Hawks has been the playoff M.O. for the last few years. Then you haven't watched the Sharks in the last few years. This season, Heatley didn't play well, but was hurt. Thornton wasn't great but he was much better than he had been in previous years,. Marleau was great. The team as a whole played well. The hawks were just a little bit better. I just don't understand why it's so hard for you to admit that the Sharks skated right with the Hawks for 3 of the 4 games and could have easily won any of those. It's very strange that you can't admit it.
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    I know. I never said it wasn't. It was a very convincing series against a great team. They absolutely earned it. RedFlash just likes making it seem like I'm insulting the team when I'm not.
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    Who is playing the "what if" game? We're not talking about who deserved the win. I'm talking about the statement that the hawks "dominated" the Sharks, which just isn't true. See how RedFlash makes the argument into something it's not? I point out that we outplayed them but didn't "dominate" the series (as if there's some shame in that or something), and he pretends I'm saying the Hawks didn't deserve to win or that we got lucky. The Hawks deserved to win. They were the better team. They did not dominate the series. I want to know where anybody said anything remotely close to this.
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    why do you keep acting like i'm insulting the blackhawks or something? you're talking about a bunch of stuff i never even brought up. all i said was that it's not accurate to say we dominated them. 3 of the 4 games were pretty evenly played. Now i'm interested to hear how you spin this and act like I'm saying the Hawks didn't deserve to win and that the Sharks are better. Seriously, any time anybody says anything about this team other than that they're awesome, you get all offended and act like we're trashing the team.
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    i hate to go with the "you must not have watched the games" line, but did you? nobody who watched all 4 games can honestly say that he played as well as he could have what if he doesn't give up the soft byfuglien goal in game 1? what if he stops the bolland breakaway in game 3? what if he doesn't score on himself in game 4 to get the hawks back into it? all 3 of those games ended up being won by a single goa l(the empty netter in game 4 wouldn't have happened). so yes, the series was that close, even if you can't admit it for some reason. the blackhawks could EASILY be down 3-1 right now. i'm not saying this to take away from the blackhawks at all. san jose is a great team and sweeping them by dominaing them all 4 games was unrealistic. "There are a lot of people who are going to say it was a one-way series," defenseman Dan Boyle said. "Anyone who knows anything about hockey knows that three of those four games could certainly have gone our way." boyle is right, and most unbiased hawks fans would agree
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    oh, is it always the captain that accepts it? i'm dumb
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    i would not waste any assets (especially guys like cash, castro, the jacksons, etc) on any starting pitcher right now... and especially not on a rental of an older pitcher. we're looking set with starting pitching for at least next year. zambrano, dempster, wells, silva, cashner, gorz, marshall, jay jackson, etc. some of those guys are obviously suspect and could suck, but i think it's a pretty safe bet that we'll be able to put together a solid rotation out of those guys next season
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