who cares. the last 2+ seasons have been a consistent descent in every way, and nothing of significance has changed. it's time. they can't stress getting out to a fast start 2 years in a row, have a complete meltdown like this in the first week, and not do anything. really thought it doesn't even matter. we have like 3 good major league players, no money, and a trashy system. barring some magic by theo, the run looks over for now. If they want to let him go to “light a fire” or as more of a body of work over the last few years or whatever, fine I guess. But to act like this start is really on Joe I think is a bit disingenuous. On the latter comment about the run being over I’d say I’m gonna wait longer than 5 games in early April to declare such a thing. nobody is even saying it's on joe. managers just get stale and it's an easy way to shake things up. losing joe maddon is not going to hurt this team, but it could help. and the "it's only 5 games" kind of makes it sound like they're simply off to a bad start. it's not about the 1-4, it's about the complete and total ineptitude they've shown in every facet of the game, with much of it being the same horsefeathers we've seen before this.