you seem very upset about this lol No, just think it's very weird you feel the need to constantly bring something up that's not remotely true. is this a troll post or did you not click any of those links? the most down i ever got on javy is that i thought the most likely outcome was that most of his value was on defense (and that his insane historic 2016 output in terms of DRS was unsustainable) and mashing the hell out of lefties. i thought he probably would always need to be shielded against all good righties. i also always realized there was a glimmer of a chance of him going balls out superstar. i also at one point thought that if anyone should be traded (after 2016) for archer or someone like that, it should be him because with all the postseason hype, his perceived value at the time seemed better than his actual value. this offseason i swapped happ into that category instead of him, but i also was pretty much always in "keep them all and horsefeathers trading for pitching" crew. if you want to dig up the posts, have at it.