Middle relievers, by their very nature, are shaky. I agree somewhat if you're speaking universally about middle relievers. But there's nothing about those two guy's numbers form the past two seasons that says shaky. Plus on this team Howry, and Eyre will be used more as set up men rather than middle relief. It doesn't matter how they are used, they are middle relievers. Also, the past two seasons are not the only thing you go on. If you look at middle relievers two best back to back seasons, most will look pretty good. The point is 2 good years might be all you can get out of them. Maybe you can get 3. Maybe you can get 2 good, 1 bad, and 2 more good. However it works out, they're shaky pitchers. That's why they are in the roles they are in. I don't think I could disagree more. But just to clarify, are you saying that bullpen guys that never become closers have a shelf life of about 2-4 years? No, he's saying that they aren't consistent by any measure. Middle relievers are such because they aren't good enough to start, then aren't good enough to close. Add in the short season of IP they get each year, and their performance is bound to vary wildly. That's why you don't know what you'll get with Howry and Eyre(and Wuertz, Novoa, Williamson), and it's especially why it was a bad decision to give each a 3 year deal.