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But they didn't do those things, and you knew that going into this season. Why are we still talking about what they didn't do? They are a 5-12 team with Pickens or Cooper, and they wouldn't be any more watchable with a QB getting hurried on half his dropbacks.

I believe many of understand the need to be run heavy but, that cowardly, dick-less punt on 4th and 2? Hell, horsefeathering run the ball but, at least grow some and give it a shot. And all of that basically giving up with run after run in the red zone? Even bad teams will show more trust in their bad players and actually try to score a TD via the pass. What kind of a message is that to Fields - we're so scared you'll horsefeathers up that were just going to make sure we get at least a FG attempt by running the ball up the middle three times. But people aren't talking about that. They're talking about Zappe looking competent, being "out" on Fields, TD less halves, wishing he had 1/2 of Mahomes stats....and that's in the last 15 posts. Granted, you aren't one of them. But in general, people act like Fields is a bust because he can't turn a horsefeathers sandwich into a 5 star meal while only having a hot plate to work with.

You guys are still killing me in these threads. We talked all offseason about how the talent team was bad. I think we all agree the games have proven us right, correct? Based on the common knowledge that the talent is bad, especially on offense.... Why are we acting surprised the offense can't score? Why are we expecting Fields to be good and transcend the rest of the talent on the roster? Why are we screaming for Fields to throw more, when he was pressured on 17 of 35 dropbacks? Bad team is bad. Like if Fields were to look how you guys want, then the bad team with the bad talent wouldn't be bad. This year is gonna suck. They NEED to be run heavy, not only because they are best at it, but also to protect Fields from his eventual death if they don't. When teams stop the run or the Bears D can't hold teams down, they are going to lose and its going to be ugly. Idk why you guys keep expecting otherwise. I understand the heat of the game, but it's over and these takes still suck.

SO you're saying there's a chance.....

They were top 10 every year in D, I'm pretty sure. He's fine overall and certainly was well qualified. so why does he suck ass I mean this is the 2nd game he's lost in 8 tries.

They should have just broadcast this game in regular def. Giants throwback uniforms. Teams playing 80s style football. Bears making every Giants pass rusher look like Lawrence Taylor. Love a good theme.

They were top 10 every year in D, I'm pretty sure. He's fine overall and certainly was well qualified.

Fields had 158 yards passing 25 minutes ago of game time. He now has 157.

LOL @ Getsy and Eberflus. What bitch asses

LOL. Converts multiple 3rd and longs, then neutered in the red zone.

I can't even blame them for the short passes. The OL isn't going to hold up on 3rd and long. Take the points. Now 2nd and long runs up the middle......

Happy to see Herbert get more time as the lead back. Less excited about seeing more of Ebner, but maybe he will be better if he's not also returning kicks because Velus is in. I really didn't like the Ebner pick. He was 1 of 2 picks (that FS they drafted from CAL is the other) that I didn't even really understand even going into it with an open mind. I understand there was an injury, but I don't really like him as a #2 RB. He's a #3, but he only really has value in the passing game. Even for 4-6 carries per game, I don't really like him anywhere between the tackles. He's more of a guy I'd like if you had this fun, wide open offense where you needed an extra weapon to keep teams from committing too much attention to your WRs/TEs. Put him in KC or Buffalo, cool. Chicago? Meh.

No David Montgomery or Jaylon Johnson this week. Cruikshank also out on special teams. Conversely, the Giants are missing Kadarius Toney, Wan'Dale Robinson, starting CB Cordale Flott, and most importantly the best player on their team, Leonard Williams. Velus practiced in full for the first time in forever, and is likely to make his debut.

I'm really interested to see how this is handled from here. I know the NFLPA investigation won't lead to horsefeathers. But how does Miami handle him. I'd guess it's a pretty solid sign that the doctors in Cincy allowed him to fly back home. I believe when a fighter is knocked on in a similar pose, they have to sit out for 6 weeks. I have 0 doubt that Tua will play again this season. But I think the pressure now is on Miami to put him on short-term IR at the very least for 4 weeks and maybe even give him a couple weeks of practice before bringing him back.

I've gone into on Twitter about how I feel about the whole thing. To sum up my thoughts on the Tua situation. This isn't a team, player or doctor issue. It's a system issue. The league itself is a mega corporation run by billionaires and their investments. The biggest single factor in that investment is the QB. Some things don't even need to be said anymore. I heard a statement this AM that made me laugh a bit. "There is an INDEPENDENT doctor, assigned to EACH TEAM". Talk about a contradiction. Yeah, he isn't PAID by the team, but the doctor is assigned to watch players for this specific team. But you don't have to tell the team doctor to make sure the QB passes concussion protocol so your team can win. They already know it. One of the ex-Patriot players commended the team on how they handled his similar concussion by putting him on IR, despite the fact that he wanted to keep playing. But being careful with Joe Lineman's concussion is much easier than being careful with Tom Brady's. Lineman misses the year, you go on with the season. Starting QB misses the year, you get a high draft pick. Doctors know this, teams know this, owners know this, all are affected by the financial impact of NOT having star QBs on the field. The players know they have a short shelf life. They don't care if their quality of life is affected after 50 if they can maximize their earnings while in their 20s. With the extreme caveat that I'm not a doctor and I've never knowingly had a concussion....I have had a back injury (surgery in my future) and I've had trouble getting up and straightening my back, but I've never had wobbly knees from back pain. I've never had back pain cause me to shake my head as if there were cobwebs to shake off, after standing up. I won't discount that there is a possibility Tua could have passed concussion protocols, especially right after it happened. I also won't discount that he could have "faked" not having a concussion by knowing how to respond to questions and the various testing. He also could have not told anyone if he was having symptoms all week. He played well after coming back Sunday, and showed no signs of concussion after the stumble, but I'd be willing to bet he did suffer a concussion Sunday. Basically, it could be on any number of the player, doctors, coaches, etc. to all or no extent. But it's pretty clear someone screwed up badly and this kid's livelihood is what has to suffer because of it.

They'd consider that for 1/2 a second before they'd remember they really like money.

I get the sentiment but does anybody really think a 3rd round rookie receiver who has barely practiced with this team is going to make a difference anytime soon? I don't see him doing anything besides endarounds and WR screens and the occasional quick slants. I guess though, the best thing that comes from that is some easy throws/yardage for Fields, which would make a pretty solid difference in how this offense feels.

I really hadn't heard too much about the turf there, somehow. I guess that's where Zach Wilson got hurt in preseason too. Wonder if that'll influence the decision to play Montgomery.

That legitimately made me happy. Hasta La Viska!

I think I agree here. The Bears blue-on-blues aren't bad, but I hate them because I feel they always lost in them. But for the most part, I don't like all 1 color unless it's all black (Ravens, Saints, Bengals) or all white....unless it's the boring ass Colts all whites. I think the white helmet sends it over the top for me as being "too much". Oh and I absolutely hate the jerseys with huge splashes of color on them. Think Broncos with the giant orange stripes or whatever and the Cardinals white jerseys which are basically half red.

Agreed. Also, it does matter that they are throwbacks. Because the person who "designed" them that Sofa has beef with, designed them like 60 years ago. They are updated versions of the 60s design. So, not only do they "look like the Bears" they literally are what the Bears used to look like.

Like an old racehorse. At this point, I hope the Bulls sell him to a family so they can enjoy him playing basketball in their backyards instead of sending him to the glue factory.

Wait, WTF am I reading? People don't like the uniforms the Bears wore Sunday? They are horsefeathering excellent. The orange jerseys are bad. All white uniforms are excellent as well. The blue throwbacks with the block orange lettering are wonderful as well. These are facts. You can debate, but you are wrong.

Those numbers come down a lot when you figure in the 46 and 27 yd long runs for both backs. Pollard still had a very solid 5 ypc but Zeke goes down to 3.3 ypc without his long. The Barkley TD run was impressive though. He made a cut at the 20 yd line and just ran away from everyone without any help. Yeah, all numbers go down if you take out the biggest plays. The Bears have shown the ability to make big plays in the run game, so I see no reason to discount those runs the Cowboys duo had.

Their depth chart lists Richie James, Wan'Dale Robinson and David Sills as their starting WRs. Weird because Toney, Golladay and Slayton are still on the roster but they all appear to be in the doghouse. Shepherd, James and Sills had the most snaps yesterday. Golladay had 24 snaps, Slayton 14. Toney is hurt, but potentially could be back this week.