Have you ever been to NYC? No, and I don't ever plan too. How ignorant then. My father has never been to NYC, and I know he never will. Not something that would appeal to him. Over 10 million people, traffic, loud, etc... I am assuming there are many others who feel the same as he and Redflash about NYC, who have no desire to go there, who see no appeal in going. I sincerely doubt however,the LBJ is one of those people.