Fred Hornkohl

TOP OF THE FIRST INNING Hairston doubled down the left field line. Walker grounded out to first, 3-1, Hairston to third Lee struck out swinging Burnitz popped out to shortstop 0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 0 0 1 0 Cincinnati . 0 0 0

Funniest thing..... you know my wife said the same thing !! :wink:

Come on, Beernuts.... pick 'em up and bring the runner home !!

CUBS are 6-0 when attendance is less than 24,000. :wink:

If it were me.... I'd find another hotel !! :wink:

Is it just against the Cubs, or is Miller hitting a lot better this year? 07/12 team AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB K SB BA OBP SLG OPS D. Miller Milw 204 26 54 14 0 4 80 20 19 45 0 0.265 0.336 0.392 0.728

If I'm not mistaken.... it was the White Sox who started that trend in the middle 60's.

I got all 10 right.... but I confess to making a couple of lucky guesses.

Welcome! Who are you a convert from? perhaps i shouldn't share this dreadful secret. . . but. . . the yankees Welcome Might I ask why why the change of heart? two roads diverged in a yellow wood. . .my affinity for the yankees didn't possess a strong enough connection, so when my boyfriend (mr. cubmanpi) let me know it was a conversion of the heart or the highway, i chose the former. and that has made all the difference. . . Firm but fair. .... and that pretty blue CUBS cap sure does offset her beautiful blue eyes, no?

Roast.... you are aware that Cincinnati has outscored us 458-427 so far this season ??

UMF.... come on, man, put your believe bracelet back on and get with the program. Hudson isn't struggling, he's just bad. And, besides..... didn't we beat a struggling Al Leiter like a rented mule just last week ?? And besides that.... Mark Prior is pitching !! CUBS take this one in a laugher..... 9-2 !!

San Diego had some road uniforms back in the early 70's that were mustard yellow with brown trim. They were a sight !!

You're probably right. Barret has caught the last 2 games.... and Blanco has started 7 of Prior's last 9 starts.

Someone reported earlier in the thread that Jason Dubois had appeared in 51 games, but only started 20 games this season for the CUBS. I believe the correct number is 35 games started (20 wins and 15 losses). Roast.... just a suggestion here. You might refer to your speculations as reasonable, i.e. able to be reasoned, as opposed to logical. Am I splitting hairs ?? You bet your black belt I am !! But keep speculating !! Vance, Vance........ poor prolific, unrespected Vance !! Convening a panel of experts ?? Oh Puleeeeeze !! Expert noun (pronounced: X' spurt). X is a mathematical term meaning unkown. Spurt is a drip under pressure. Ergo; an expert is an unkown drip under pressure. :wink:

Worthless stats of the day for Tuesday..... CUBS are 8-5 on Tuesdays CUBS are 4-2 vs. Cincinnati CUBS are 22-21 at night. CUBS are 23-23 on the road. CUBS are 20-12 when their pitcher gets at least 1 hit.... 27-33 when they don't CUBS are 17-7 when Derrek Lee hits at least 1 HR.... 30-38 when he doesn't CUBS are 28-18 when they've won the previous game.... 18-27 after a loss CUBS are 6-8 when they've won their previous 2 games CUBS are 9-4 when the temperature is 85 degree or above CUBS are 39-18 when they throw less than 17 pitches per inning.... 8-27 when they don't CUBS are 24-16 when they see at least 3.7 Pit/PA.... 23-29 when they don't CUBS are 9-4 when Prior starts Prior is 9 of 13 in quality starts Prior's ERA pitching to Barrett is 3.77.... pitching to Blanco it's 2.65 CUBS score 4.64 R/G overall.... 4.77 R/G when Prior pitches CUBS hit 1.32 HR/G overall.... 1.54 HR/G when Prior pitches CUBS' offensive support for Prior..... 04/04 - 07/18 AB R H 2b 3b HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS CUBS w/Prior 430 62 116 26 2 20 206 58 37 61 0.270 0.328 0.479 0.807 CUBS overall 3186 427 877 188 13 121 1454 409 237 542 0.275 0.325 0.456 0.782 Mark Prior's last five starts..... Prior IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA 07/14 vs. Pitts 8.0 2 1 0 3 10 0 115 3.38 11.25 0.00 0.63 0.00 07/07 vs. Atla 4.7 7 6 6 4 5 1 102 7.71 9.64 1.93 2.36 11.57 07/01 vs. Wash 5.0 6 3 3 0 7 1 82 0.00 12.60 1.80 1.20 5.40 06/26 vs. CWS 6.0 1 0 0 0 3 0 71 0.00 4.50 0.00 0.17 0.00 05/27 vs. Colo 3.3 2 1 1 3 3 0 55 8.10 8.10 0.00 1.50 2.70 5 game totals 27.0 18 11 10 10 28 2 425 3.33 9.33 0.67 1.04 3.33 Prior's H/R & D/N splits..... Prior IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA Home 52.3 32 13 11 15 60 6 791 2.58 10.32 1.03 0.90 1.89 Road 29.7 26 18 17 10 27 5 479 3.03 8.19 1.52 1.21 5.16 Day 62.0 41 25 23 20 65 8 965 2.90 9.44 1.16 0.98 3.34 Nite 20.0 17 6 5 5 22 3 305 2.25 9.90 1.35 1.10 2.25 season totals 82.0 58 31 28 25 87 11 1270 2.74 9.55 1.21 1.01 3.07 CUBS vs. Cincinnati season series..... Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 13 Mon 04/18 @ Cincinnati N 6- 7 Wood 14 Tue 04/19 @ Cincinnati N 7- 1 Prior 19 Mon 04/25 Cincinnati N 10- 6 Prior 20 Tue 04/26 Cincinnati N 9-11 Zambrano 21 Wed 04/27 Cincinnati 8- 7 Dempster 92 Mon 07/18 @ Cincinnati N 9- 4 Williams 93 Tue 07/19 @ Cincinnati N - Prior 94 Wed 07/20 @ Cincinnati N - Wood 95 Thu 07/21 @ Cincinnati - Maddux 112 Mon 08/08 Cincinnati N - Williams 113 Tue 08/09 Cincinnati - Prior 114 Wed 08/10 Cincinnati - Wood 144 Mon 09/12 Cincinnati N - Wood 145 Tue 09/13 Cincinnati N - Maddux 146 Wed 09/14 Cincinnati N - Zambrano CUBS' hitters vs. Cincinnati..... CUBS AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Walker 6 2 3 0 0 2 9 3 0 0 0.500 0.500 1.500 2.000 Cedeno 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1.000 1.000 1.000 2.000 Lee 25 12 13 1 0 7 35 15 2 2 0.520 0.536 1.400 1.936 Murton 5 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 1 0.800 0.800 0.800 1.600 Patterson 21 6 9 1 0 3 19 4 0 1 0.429 0.429 0.905 1.333 Barrett 22 2 9 3 1 1 17 4 1 2 0.409 0.435 0.773 1.208 Ramirez 23 4 7 1 0 3 17 7 3 2 0.304 0.385 0.739 1.124 Burnitz 22 4 8 2 0 2 16 5 1 1 0.364 0.375 0.727 1.102 Grieve 2 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0.500 0.500 0.500 1.000 Dubois 6 1 1 0 0 1 4 2 0 3 0.167 0.286 0.667 0.952 Macias 7 1 3 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0.429 0.500 0.429 0.929 Hairston 25 9 9 2 0 0 11 1 2 3 0.360 0.467 0.440 0.907 Perez 26 5 7 0 1 1 12 6 1 4 0.269 0.321 0.462 0.783 Hollandsworth 16 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0.125 0.125 0.125 0.250 Garciaparra 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.000 0.167 0.000 0.167 Blanco 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 vs. Cinci 229 49 80 11 2 20 155 48 12 26 0.349 0.391 0.677 1.068 overall 3186 427 877 190 14 120 1455 409 237 541 0.275 0.329 0.457 0.786 CUBS' pitchers vs. Cincinnati..... CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA Bartosh 3.3 2 1 1 4 2 0 70 10.80 5.40 0.00 1.80 2.70 Dempster 5.3 8 6 6 5 7 1 97 8.44 11.81 1.69 2.44 10.13 Fox 0.3 1 3 3 3 0 1 30 81.00 0.00 27.00 12.00 81.00 Hawkins 2.0 1 0 0 0 3 0 27 0.00 13.50 0.00 0.50 0.00 Leicester 1.7 2 3 2 3 2 0 38 16.20 10.80 0.00 3.00 10.80 Novoa 2.0 2 1 1 1 1 0 42 4.50 4.50 0.00 1.50 4.50 Ohman 1.3 2 0 0 2 1 0 25 13.50 6.75 0.00 3.00 0.00 Prior 13.0 10 3 2 4 16 1 204 2.77 11.08 0.69 1.08 1.38 Remlinger 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 12 0.00 9.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 Rusch 4.7 2 1 1 0 3 0 61 0.00 5.79 0.00 0.43 1.93 Wood 6.0 8 5 5 2 6 2 95 3.00 9.00 3.00 1.67 7.50 Wuertz 1.0 2 3 2 1 2 0 25 9.00 18.00 0.00 3.00 18.00 Zambrano 4.7 7 6 6 3 5 1 104 5.79 9.64 1.93 2.14 11.57 Williams 6.7 6 4 4 1 3 1 104 1.35 4.05 1.35 1.05 5.40 vs. Cinci 53.0 54 36 33 29 52 7 934 4.92 8.83 1.19 1.57 5.60 overall 817.3 759 405 383 327 705 109 13460 3.60 7.76 1.20 1.33 4.22 Go CUBS !!

Greetings and salutations, bcj :wink:

Thanx, I appreciate that. :wink: After 92 games played, is this the worst record Cubs have had under Baker? (just wondering) if i remember, we were around the .500 mark in 03 at this time of year as well. Fred i bet could tell ya though :wink: Last year we were 49-43 after 92 games. 2003 is on my old laptop, I never uploaded it to this one.

Thanx, I appreciate that. :wink:

BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING Novoa in to pitch for the CUBS Pena popped out to first base LaRue grounded out to third, 5-3 Cruz, pinch hitting for Coffey, struck out (called) 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 1 1 9 18 0 Cincinnati 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 4 6 0 CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! W: Williams (2-3) S: none L: Claussen (4-7) T: 3:03 A: 24,311 Home runs: CUBS: Walker (5 & 6), Lee (29 & 30), Ramirez (22) Cincinnati: Aurilia (9) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR HB PIT Williams 6.7 6 4 4 1 3 1 2 104 Rusch 1.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 Novoa 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18

That's great. Hollandsworth has 1 good game, and you want to call it a trend. Hey, that's fine. Trends begin and end when they begin and end. This happend without respect to any fixed and arbitrary time reference. What you call manipulating data is nothing more than isolating a trend that your "common point of reference" completely ignores. It was a two game sample, thank you very much. :P I still don't think your 13 AB's prove anything, and definitely feel the :shock: was a bit much considering the sample size. You imply that 6 AB's is too few for a trend but are claiming that 13 AB's is enough. Seems like a pretty fine line. Yes, it's a 2 game sample size. I said he had 1 good game, and I stand by it. You have my sincere apology for the use of the :shock: Never mind was it implied. Concentrate on what was stated. The original assertion was that Hollandsworth has played "real well lately". I assert that he has not. A fine line ? Sure it is.

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING Perez grounded an IF single to second Murton grounded an IF single to third, Perez to second Hollandsworth, pinch hitting for Rusch, grounded into a FC, 4-6, Murton out at second, Perez to third Hairston singled to center field, Perez scored, Hollandsworth to second Walker flied out to center field, Hollandsworth to third Lee grounded into a FC, 6-4, Hairston out at second 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 1 1 9 17 0 Cincinnati 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4 6 0 Home runs: CUBS: Walker (5 & 6), Lee (29 & 30), Ramirez (22)

That's great. Hollandsworth has 1 good game, and you want to call it a trend. Hey, that's fine. Trends begin and end when they begin and end. This happend without respect to any fixed and arbitrary time reference. What you call manipulating data is nothing more than isolating a trend that your "common point of reference" completely ignores.

BOTTOM OF THE EIGHTH INNING Griffey grounded out to first, 3-1 Randa grounded out to second, 4-3 Dunn struck out (called) 0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 1 8 15 0 Cincinnati 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 4 6 0 Home runs: CUBS: Walker (5 & 6), Lee (29 & 30), Ramirez (22) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR HB PIT Williams 6.7 6 4 4 1 3 1 2 104 Rusch 1.3 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 22

TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING Shackelford in to pitch for Cincinnati Hairston singled to right field Walker singled to right field, Hairston to second Lee flied out to center field, runners holding Coffey in to pitch for Cincinnati Ramirez popped out (foul) to third base Barrett singled to right field, Hairston scored, Walker to second Burnitz flied out to left field 1 runs, 3 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E CUBS 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 1 8 15 0 Cincinnati 1 0 0 0 0 0 3 4 6 0 Home runs: CUBS: Walker (5 & 6), Lee (29 & 30), Ramirez (22)

Hollandsworth AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 07/09 - 07/17 13 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 2 0.231 0.333 0.231 0.564 :shock: Why pick the 7/9 - 7/17 time period? If you use all of July his BA is .321, OBP is 394, SLG is .571 against RH pitching. That seems pretty good to me. Becuase that's when he turned cold. Why do you insist on tying all trends to the calendar month ?? Players don't get hot and cold on a monthly schedule, ya know. Hollandsworth AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 07/01 - 07/08 22 2 8 2 0 2 16 4 2 2 0.364 0.400 0.727 1.127 07/09 - 07/17 13 2 3 0 0 0 3 0 2 2 0.231 0.333 0.231 0.564 07/01 - 07/17 35 4 11 2 0 2 19 4 4 4 0.314 0.375 0.543 0.918