Fred Hornkohl

We would have been luckier if Hendry had Just Said No to the LA pusher. I don't think LA fans are staying up nights cursing that deal. Impressive since you registered here 2 months ago. Serena..... you're so young to be so cynical !! :wink:

That would leave this board with people posting completely unconnected opinions, never addressing what anyone else thought unless they agreed That would be dumb I agree...but sheesh...it seemed like my opinion of McDonough really offended him. I don't believe that anybody is offended by your opionions. Those that have responded to you, including the moderators, have taken afront at the way you deliver those opinions. I suspect that if you don't heed their advice, you'll be meeting a fellow called Modzilla. Where have I personally attacked anyone on the board in this thread? I don't like McDounough, which dates back to the ticket scalping incident. He is a salesman and I don't trust him. And the hire/promotion angers me. If you are gonna ban me for not having optimistic attitude, then so be it. Let me turn that right around on you. Where did I say you attacked anyone. I merely tried to point out to you that people here are not objecting to what you're saying, but rather to how you're saying it. Reading comprehension is pretty valuable because it's pretty rare. I don't ban people here; I'm not a moderator. But I have been here long enough to know that if you keep ignoring their warnings....... well... just do want you want to do.

The playoff teams averaged 68.25 sac bunts compared to the Marlins 76, and the league average of 74.4. I stand by what I said, I think you overstated your case.

That would leave this board with people posting completely unconnected opinions, never addressing what anyone else thought unless they agreed That would be dumb I agree...but sheesh...it seemed like my opinion of McDonough really offended him. I don't believe that anybody is offended by your opionions. Those that have responded to you, including the moderators, have taken afront at the way you deliver those opinions. I suspect that if you don't heed their advice, you'll be meeting a fellow called Modzilla.

Why? Are you kidding me? He managed a team with a $14 million dollar payroll, and had them in contention for the wild card untill the last 2 weeks in the season. Everyone predicted the marlins to lose over 100 games this year. The team didn't have a winning season, had some of the best young talent in baseball and he was responsible for sending one of their best young pitchers out after a long rain delay. The pitcher then had a season ending arm injury in the same game. He is infatuated with the sac bunt, made poor personnel decisions at the begining of the year and was told to make changes. I don't see any reason why the cubs better pick him. You may be overstating the case here. I don't think I would call that an infatuation. 1 Colorado 119 2 Houston 100 3 Chicago Cubs 84 4 San Francisco 80 5 Atlanta 78 6 NY Mets 77 7 Washington 76 8 Florida 76 9 St. Louis 71 10 Cincinnati 66 11 LA Dodgers 66 12 Pittsburgh 62 13 Arizona 61 14 San Diego 59 15 Milwaukee 58 16 Philadelphia 57

Are you sure? I thought it was the Orphans. . White Stockings, then Colts, then Orphans when Cap Anson left.

Thought you said you leaving on a long trip ??? :wink:

Gee, Vance.... who might that be ?? :wink:

Hell... if it was up to me, I'd sell off the newspapers and keep the ball club !!

I heard it rumored on WGN this morning that he would be going to Seattle.

OK, goony..... but are we discussing the pro's and con's of Joe Girardi..... or are we discussing "What is people's fascination with Girardi about?" ?

How 'bout if we exhume the body of Frank Chance and prop him up in the dugout ?? ...... ah..... nevermind.

I agree, but would expand the idea to cover two more themes I've been harping on since the late 1990s after viewing the model of the Yankees rebuild a dynasty. Building on your bolded thought, what makes the antiquated notions even worse is the habit of starting with a fixed budget. It's the combination of the two that compounds a Pierre trade with a Jones 3 year contract just because it fits a budget, then scrimp elsewhere by starting unproven rookies in critical position on the field and in the order. We must couple a new baseball strategy with a flexible and significantly expanded budget that allows a GM to pull in the right player whenever he's available, or to extend a player when we know he's exactly what conforms to our baseball strategy. Second, it still boggles my mind that the Cubs' ownership can't recognize that any relatively modest increase in payroll ($50M is a drop in the bucket) that would enable sustained exciting, WINNING baseball would reap orders of magnitude increases in revenues for the foreseeable future. Where do get this crap ? When the CUBS traded Sosa to Baltimore, they had to shift approx $20M of his contract from a future period to the present accounting period. This in turn, caused the Tribune Co. to have to restate their financial statements and it literally caused ripples throughout the financial community, and their stock took another hit...... but you tell us that $50M is a drop in the bucket. Geez..... I guess I just don't get it, eh?

McDonough is indeed the same guy who had lunch with Steve Stone. He and Stone are really good friends, from my understanding. Yes, and don't forget that last week John McDonough was the senior vice president of marketing AND broadcasting.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Fearless prediction........ Buffalo 6 BEARS 23

.... or punts, either !! :wink:

Berrian has to make that catch

Here comes a great drive from the BEARS. I feel it !!

Oh, yes !!

That is without question the worst spot of a football I've ever seen !!!

Looks like he was axed to leave. Very well played !!

Sunday 01 October 2006 Colorado @ CUBS 13:20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Colorado 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 7 2 CUBS 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 3 8 9 2 Colorado ab r h rbi bb k lob sb cs sac gdp e 2b 3b hr sf hb Matsui 2b 5 1 1 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Salazar cf 4 1 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Sullivan cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Atkins 3b 3 2 3 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Holliday lf 5 0 0 0 0 4 7 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Helton 1b 3 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Hawpe rf 3 0 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Barmes ss 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Closser c 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Jimemez p 3 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Affeldt p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Mesa p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Baker ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Corpas p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Martin p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 totals 35 5 7 5 5 12 14 1 0 0 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 CUBS ab r h rbi bb k lob sb cs sac gdp e 2b 3b hr sf hb Pierre cf 4 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Theriot 2b 3 1 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Ramirez 3b 4 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 Jones rf 3 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 Murton lf 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Moore 1b 3 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Mabry 1b 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Blanco c 3 1 0 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Cedeno ss 4 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 Miller p 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Walrond p 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Aardsma p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Pagan ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Ohman p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Dempster p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Bynum ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Howry p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 totals 33 8 9 7 3 4 8 2 1 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 Colorado IP H R ER BB K HR Pit Jimemez 6.7 3 4 3 3 3 1 92 Affeldt 0.0 2 1 0 0 0 0 5 Mesa 0.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Corpas 0.3 2 2 2 0 0 0 20 Martin 0.7 2 1 1 0 1 0 5 totals 8.0 9 8 6 3 4 1 123 CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR Pit Miller 4.0 6 4 4 3 4 1 94 Walrond 2.3 0 0 0 1 4 0 35 Aardsma 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 Ohman 0.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 Dempster 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 10 Howry 1.0 1 1 0 0 3 1 28 totals 9.0 7 5 4 5 12 2 179 Home runs: Colorado: Matsui (3), Atkins (29) CUBS: Ramirez (38 ) W: Aardsma (3-0) S: none L: Affeldt (8-8) T: 2:45 A: 39,609 Colorado CUBS P/PA 4.48 3.42 RBI% 0.18 0.43 R/BR 0.42 0.67 BA 0.200 0.273 OBP 0.300 0.333 SLG 0.400 0.455 OPS 0.700 0.788 ERA 6.75 4.00 BB/9 3.38 5.00 K/9 4.50 12.00

TOP OF THE NINTH INNING Howry in to pitch for the CUBS Matsui struck out swinging Sullivan struck out swinging Atkins homered to left field Holliday struck out swinging 1 runs 1 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Colorado 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 7 2 CUBS 0 0 0 2 0 0 3 3 8 9 2 CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! W: Aardsma (3-0) S: none L: Affeldt (8-8) T: 2:45 A: 39,609 Home runs: Colorado: Matsui (3), Atkins (29) CUBS: Ramirez (38 ) Colorado IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Jimemez 6.7 3 4 3 3 3 1 92 Affeldt 0.0 2 1 0 0 0 0 5 Mesa 0.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 Corpas 0.3 2 2 2 0 0 0 20 Martin 0.7 2 1 1 0 1 0 5 CUBS IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Miller 4.0 6 4 4 3 4 1 94 Walrond 2.3 0 0 0 1 4 0 35 Aardsma 0.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 Ohman 0.0 0 0 0 1 0 0 7 Dempster 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 10 Howry 1.0 1 1 0 0 3 1 28

CUBS are 14-37 when the opponent hits at least 2 HRs.... 51-59 when they don't Go CUBS !!