Wrong wrong wrong. Look at the Red Sox of 03, with the closer by comittee. Then they fail horribly, realize they need a closer, sign Foulke, and win the World Series. Houston had Lidge. St. Louis has Isringhausen, White Sox had Hermanson/Jenks. The truth is that having a great closer and setup man shortens the game to 7 or 8 innings. Guess how Isringhausen and Hermanson became closers. Nathan, Dempster, and Gagne too. For what it's worth, but Hermanson was drafted as a closer. It wasn't until '97 after being traded to Montreal (via florida) that Alou had him starting. then he bounced back and forth between starting and pen. he was, however, first a pen/closer to be guy.