Outshined_One

Last year, Fox was coming back from injury and wasn't able to pitch several days in a row. That fact was lost on Dusty, who threw him 3 times in 4 days(64 total pitches) and he threw his arm out for good on that last outing. I believe his last outing was something like 30+ pitches. Everyone knew that he was an injury waiting to happen and that he only had so many bullets left in him. Dusty apparently never got the memo.

We signed him out of the Dominican in 1999. Thanks. He was originally a catcher, but then was converted into a starter.

This is becoming sad.

Funny, because John Smoltz and Curt Schilling have been quite injured over their careers. Cripes, the Braves originally moved Smoltz to closer because he couldn't stay healthy as a starter. I'm personally frightened that Wood might become like Schilling, who was injured a lot early in his career, then settled down as he got older and only had to battle major injuries in 2003 and in the 2004 postseason. Johnson has also had his fair share of problems. Clemens is the only guy you listed who hasn't broken down due to injury, save for the 2005 postseason. Thanks to the miracle of modern medical science, these guys have had their careers extended well beyond their injury problems. It's not like these guys haven't felt the effects of overuse themselves, you know?

they also had to finish a suspended game. Ahhhhhhhhhh. I'll try and dig that one up and post it here, then.

You clearly need to get acquainted with Jake Fox. :D

I'd rather fleece every team in a trade AND be able to rub it in to the fans of that team! I'm an equal opportunist hater.

You do. :D I currently have him blocked on AIM.

Barton should be thankful he's in an AL team's farm system.

A lot of Twins fans take exception to the fact that they took Mauer as a way of saving money or gauranteeing signability. I got lambaster by a barage of Twins fans on Twins.com(this was before I realized there were good baseball websites outside of the MLB ones) for bringing that up. They argued that they wanted Mauer from the get go and that Twins management would have been chastised for passing on Mauer, local kid. I thought I would throw this in here because it came quickly to mind when I read your post. One Twin fan in particular has made a point to yap at me constantly about how Prior refused to pitch for the Twins...despite having no evidence whatsoever to back it up beyond hearsay. He's the only Twin fan I know who's said this, despite knowing a number of guys who have never heard anything about it. He's been quite thrilled about Prior's injury problems. He's also a Jock Jones fan. I'll just leave it at that.

The weather prediction is ugly tomorrow. Thunderstorms galore.

Box Scores Iowa lost 6-5 Box Score CF F. Pie 1/3, BB, 2 R, K 2B M. Fontenot 2/5, R, E (4, fielding) RF M. Restovich 1/4, RBI, 2B (14), K, HBP, E (1, missed catch) 1B M. Hoffpauir 0/5, RBI 3B/CF B. Coats 1/3, BB, R, RBI, K LF L. Montanez 2/4, RBI, 2B (4) PH/3B C. McGehee 0/1 C G. Soto 0/4, RBI SS R. Theriot 2/2, 3B (1) SP R. O'Malley 5 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, 7/3 K/BB, 2-5 GO-FO West Tenn won 9-6 Box Score CF C. Walker 2/4, BB, R, 4 RBI, 3B (5), CS (8), PO 2B E. Patterson 1/5, R, 2B (15) LF N. Jackson 0/5 DH B. Dopirak 2/4, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (1), K RF M. Negron 4/4, BB, 2 R, RBI, 3 2B (6) 1B B. Sing 0/3, 2 BB, R, K 3B R. Lewis 0/4, BB, R, K, E (3, throw) C J. Reyes 0/3, BB, RBI SP R. Wells 6 scoreless, 3 H, 4/1 K/BB, 7-7 GO-FO Daytona won 15-2 Box Score CF S. Fuld 3/4, 2 R, 3 RBI, 2 2B (13) C J. Fox 2/2, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (15) 1B M. Craig 2/5, 2 R, RBI, HBP RF R. Harvey 2/5, 2 R, 2 RBI, K 2B N. Spears 3/5, 3 R, RBI, K SS J. Simokaitis 1/4, 3 RBI, E (11, fielding) SP M. Holliman 6 IP, 2 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 8/2 K/BB, 4-6 GO-FO Peoria won 11-2 Box Score 2B R. Chirinos 0/3, 2 BB, R, K, E (6, fielding) DH M. Reed 3/4, BB, 3 R, SB (10) LF/RF J. Valdez 2/4, BB, R, RBI, K 1B R. Norwood 3/5, 2 R, 4 RBI, HR (7), E (4, fielding) CF/RF Y. Carter 1/4, BB, 2 R, RBI, HR (1), 2 K LF A. Garcia 1/3, BB, R, RBI, Assist (2B) PR/CF D. Gregg 0/1, R C J. Muyco 1/5, 2 RBI, 2B (5), 2 K SS J. Mota 0/4, 2 K SP S. Taylor 7 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 4/2 K/BB, 2-13 GO-FO OVERALL: 3-1

Is there any particular reason why Iowa/Round Rock only went 7 innings?

Some hope from this week's Ask BA: I'm guessing that one other club was the White Sox. Still, it's nice to see that some guys in the business liked the pick. Also, Nolan Reimold is hitting .304/.435/.538 with 16 doubles and 9 HRs in 184 ABs in the Carolina League (A+) for those of you wondering.

See, if you had just said the bolded parts from the get-go, people wouldn't have gotten on you as much. Nobody can argue that since Mulder has been very good in the regular season and that he bolstered a rotation that really needed a #2 starter. We all saw plenty of Haren during his time with the Cardinals and knew that he was not a sure thing. Go back and re-read my posts. I've been critical of basing your argument solely on his postseason numbers. Like everyone else has said, his postseason numbers are incredibly small in terms of their sample size. Be it four excellent starts during his time with the A's or six total quality starts in his career (and one crap the bed start in Game 6 of the 2005 NLCS), that simply is not enough to accurately judge a guy's ability to succeed in the postseason. It's very nice, there's no question about that. But does it make him a postseason ace? No, I do not think it adequately does. Using only postseason numbers to judge a guy is highly problematic. Some terrible players can go on hot streaks at the right time, while great players can go into slumps. Look at the postseason numbers for guys like Sammy Sosa (.245/.403/.415 with 2 HR in 53 ABs) or Vlad Guerrero (.180/.241/.240 with 1 HR in 50 ABs). Meanwhile, look at the postseason numbers for guys like Eric Karros (.300/.364/.560 with 4 HRs in 50 ABs) and Alex S. Gonzalez (.275/.341/.625 with 4 HRs in 40 ABs). Does that make Karros and Gonzalez better than Sosa and Guerrero?

You still haven't backed up your claim that the Cardinals never trade their key prospects and players. So, I take it that made Calero, Haren, and Barton expendable and not potential top guys?

You didn't answer my point. At the time of the trade, he had only made 4 post season starts. If the Cardinals traded for him because he was a postseason ace based on his numbers over four starts, they were fools. You can't make the 7 starts argument after the fact because he hadn't even made three of those starts when they traded for him. Why trade your best prospect, your best young starter, and a good reliever for a guy based solely on the fact that he had pitched very well over a 4 game stretch in the postseason? You seem to be basing your argument only on those four games. You guys have been saying 7 starts isn't enough since yesterday. You answer my question first, then I'll make my case. I've been saying four starts wasn't enough. That was the number of starts he had made in the postseason when the Cardinals traded for him.

The day I turned on Dusty once and for all? Chad Fox.

I thought I'd get that, but noooooooooooooooooooo.

I understand these guys are all about making excuses, but they really do believe their own crap, don't they?

You didn't answer my point. At the time of the trade, he had only made 4 post season starts. If the Cardinals traded for him because he was a postseason ace based on his numbers over four starts, they were fools. You can't make the 7 starts argument after the fact because he hadn't even made three of those starts when they traded for him. Why trade your best prospect, your best young starter, and a good reliever for a guy based solely on the fact that he had pitched very well over a 4 game stretch in the postseason? You seem to be basing your argument only on those four games.

I fully look forward to speaking with my Mexican friends about that game tomorrow.

After seeing what's happened to guys like Mark Prior and Kerry Wood under these freaking morons, I would not be surprised if that ever happened.

Sometimes? I hate him all the time. I typically really hate him. But really, really hate him? That's a bit rarer.

It wasn't even like Z was cruising out there. He had trouble keeping his stuff under control and gave up a bunch of walks. He had some rough innings and battled through. There was no reason to put Z out there to start the inning without even having some one pitching in the bullpen. I really, really hate Dusty sometimes.