Read back to some older Game Threads and you'll see we used to be ra-ra and optimistic. At this point, like someone above said, a lot of us feel this is a realistic approach to take with this team based on what they've shown us since April. OK, I see your point. They suck. They're always going to suck. I'll get with the program. No one saying they'll always suck etc. But they have been a bad baseball team this year when you consider their payroll and the realistic expectations that people had coming into this year. The beauty of this board and baseball in general is you can enjoy it in any way that makes you happy. If you want to be really optimistic with this team please keep posting as I'm sure some people would love the injection of confidence. If you think that this season is about done, then post things like that. The world is your oyster.