Cubbie Swagger

Are you going to quit being an horsefeathers any time soon? No? Everything I just said was true, so I'm not totally sure what you're getting at. Listing a bunch of ways that he is different from a murderer doesn't change my point. The only comparison I was making is that once someone has received their punishment for doing something, that's the end of it.

Oh, is that how it works? Murders and child molesters get out and then they have no troubles after that? No trouble getting jobs or anything? They don't have to register with authorities, or attend therapy, or notify neighbors about their past? They just get out and move along as normal? Sex offenders have to register, obviously. Sometimes they have to attend therapy, etc. but I believe that's a case-to-case basis. Murderers cop a plea for 12 years and serve 6. Maybe even less due to overcrowding. They get out on parole and as long as they don't commit any more crimes or fail any drug tests, they go about their life as normal. As far as difficulty finding a job, that can be overblown at times. There are some jobs and careers that you will be automatically eliminated from if you are a convicted felon. There are other jobs and careers where it makes no difference. There are lawyers that are convicted felons. There are lawyers that are convicted sex offenders. There are a couple of other factors besides the actual conviction that make it hard for many ex-cons to find decent long-term work. One is that many of them have spent their lives being criminals, so they have no education, no work history, and no real skills. The other is that convicted felons are not allowed to receive student loans. So, unless you're rich enough to pay out of pocket, it's not possible to go to school.

you are a [expletive] idiot and should feel bad about it You're a really nice person.

I'm not arguing that the suspension should be longer. MLB's domestic violence policy is new, and trying to iron out the kinks on how you suspend people and for how long is going to take some time. I'm just happy that some action has been taken down that path, for the time being. The state declined to prosecute, so he's not in legal trouble. And MLB said he's served his time, so I wont argue that he holds every right to have a job. But serving your time doesn't wipe the slate clean. And I'm not required to welcome him to the Cubs with open arms. Seeing a guy like him on the mound closing out ballgames will diminish the joy I find in those wins. I would be happier if he wasn't a Cub. To me, it seems pretty normal and okay for people to dislike Chapman. He's not a nice guy and it appears he has done some bad things. I'm not saying his slate should be wiped clean in the minds of the fans. But, to imply that a pro sports franchise is now somehow guilty or morally corrupt is absurd. Murderers and child molesters get out of prison in only a few years, and then they continue on with their lives. That's how it works. People get really emotional about this stuff, but all you can do is follow the rules. Once a person has served their punishment under whatever rules or laws apply, there's nothing else you can do besides dislike them. I actually typed some stuff about Castro yesterday and deleted it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we still don't actually know what happened with Chapman, do we? Isn't it just accusations? Everyone is making him out to be a woman beater, but I'm pretty sure we have no idea if he actually put his hands on the girl or not. The guy probably is horsefeathering guilty, but so are half the guys in the league. If you stopped rooting for all the bad guys, you'd have to just stop following sports.

MELKY CABRERA IS 31?!?!?!

I mean, Chapman served a 30 game suspension. How long should he be suspended for accusations? Lifetime ban? Almost all jobs judge you based on a background check. The only thing that matters is convictions. MLB is already going a step further by punishing players who were accused but not convicted. I just don't know what more people want.

I'm actually confused as to what exactly "the problem" is.

So then I'm assuming you know all the facts of the situation, right?

That was some excellent base running all around.

I wonder if the Cubs' hitters are going to continue their friendly tradition with Chapman and tease him when they score too many runs for him to get a save.

Ah, got it. Thanks.

Anybody have a link to that Chapman article?

AKA doing an interview while on the treadmill. Lmao

Theo is on the Score right now, and he sounds super nervous, for some reason. He's short of breath and swallowing a lot.

no growing up in poverty doesn't excuse physical abuse and intimidation via gunshots Excuse? No.

I'm half serious and half joking. In the slums of Cuba, firing off half a clip in your garage to prove a point probably isn't THAT rare. DOES THAT MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE? Nobody said it did.

That honestly depends your upbringing. Are you still being serious? wtf I'm half serious and half joking. In the slums of Cuba, firing off half a clip in your garage to prove a point probably isn't THAT rare.

That honestly depends your upbringing.

Your posts are less productive than mine.

"You need people like me. You need people like me, so you can point your horsefeathering fingers, and say, 'that's the bad guy'. So what does that make you? Good?" Or to quote the great Barry Bonds... "Make sure your closet is clean before you go cleaning other peoples' closets" (or something along those lines)

you're real bad at this, plz don't reference me I will kick you in the nuts.

As David touched on, there are plenty of pro athletes who aren't very good people. I'd be willing to bet there are a few players on the Cubs roster that have put their hands on a woman in their life. You root for them. But, it's Aroldis that was the subject of a highly publicized police investigation, so he's the one that we hate. To me it's kinda like the steroid issue. We'll never know who got away with it, and they certainly aren't better people than the ones that got caught. This is pro sports, and the goal is to win. You have to compartmentalize your personal feelings and morals.

what in the fresh [expletive] are you rambling on about now? I'm responding to the posts where people are saying that having Chapman doesn't really move the needle much as far as our playoff chances, while simultaneously saying it's great that we don't have to face him in the playoffs.

Why is it such a bonus that we don't have to face Chapman in the playoffs, but meanwhile it doesn't really make much difference that he's pitching for us now? Now our opponents have to face him, and we are the direct beneficiaries. And yeah, I am aware that your closer doesn't make much difference in a blowout. That doesn't mean we should just plan for blowouts.

http://img.pandawhale.com/133519-billy-madison-I-am-the-smartes-3NB4.gif Either that, or I'm just not always wrong, which seems to be the popular opinion here.