minnesotacubsfan

so, sitting at #39, would any of you consider drafting Petty or Hundley in the 2nd? Stock him away for the end of Cutlers tenure?

Huh?

Surely he wouldn't make it past the Jets. If you have your stupid dream then I can have mine

That's the argument for trading Cutler now and moving on, I think. If you view the new coach as the next long term direction, and Cutler has his own shelf life, why not start over entirely ASAP? The answer to your question is because quarterbacks don't grow on trees. You could trade him tomorrow and never come close to competent QB play for 10 years, enough to cycle through 2-3 more administrations. Cutler gives you the best chance to be competitive next year and going forward until you find (probably draft and develop) his replacement. I agree with this. 2016 could be the year to grab a first or second rd QB. If all goes well you transition in 17/18. I don't see 2015 as the year we grab our next QB. Yep, everyone is so ready to get rid of Cutler. Have they watched the past 50 years of Bears QBs and seen about 10-15 other teams' QB situations? The roster isn't in a place to rebuild right now ($22MM guaranteed to Cutler, $12MM guaranteed to Allen, brand new extension to Marshall, last years of decent Forte) and with any competent coaching system, it has 7 to 11 win talent. Look, Cutler is never going to be the NFL MVP and the Bears probably won't win a SB with him, but unless you're ready to roll the dice on drafting a QB at #7 AND eat $22MM or figure out a trade of Cutler (and in turn, cut or trade Marshall most likely unless you want to deal with that situation), you try to make this work for the next year or two. If it works and you make the playoffs, you continue to build through the draft and FA. If not, you completely blow it up after 2016 and hope the next 2 years worth of drafts (15 and 16) were good enough to be the basis for a complete rebuild. That's what I'm saying. You make it work WITH him not BECAUSE of him. The Bears up until last week were trying to win because of Cutler. They've tried getting the best out of him, and it hasn't been good enough. I don't want to say they need to try to win in spite of Cutler, but they don't need to build the franchise around him and that mostly includes making a coaching decision with him in mind first and foremost (the way Trestman was and the way Martz was hired and fired). I don't buy that the Bears were trying to win because of Cutler, they had perhaps the most talent at skill players on Offense as anyone in the league. They were trying to win WITH Cutler.

If that were to happen if love it if Mariotta slipped to the Bears at #7

What is wrong with Mike Shanahan? People say he did nothing without Elway, but most of his time in Denver was without Elway. The Broncos were barely average in the years before he got there. He won 11 games with Brian Griese and 10+ three years in a row with Jake Plummer (including one 13 win season). He got a pro bowl season out of Cutler and Washington's only playoff appearance in a decade. He's not going to be your coach for the next 10 years, but I think you can do a lot worse than him. And we're basically looking for an unknown guy to match what he has done. He's not awful, but not great either. I would be fine with the hire. He's a professional guy who won't have most of the locker room shenanigans that Trestman allowed. At the worst, he's your coach the next 2 years and if he can't get anything done with Cutler, they are both gone and you start over without both of them. For reference, Shanahan without Elway is 123-121 and 1-5 in the playoffs. Lovie Smith as a Bear was 81-63 and 3-3 in the playoffs. Still can't believe the McCaskeys let Emery fire him (even though I can't say it wasn't the right time to move on). I think at best, he's the coach for 2-4 years. I don't want a coach that's potentially only going to be around for 2 years. And the best chance at continuity to the next coach is his A-hole son. I also think the Bears need to stop catering to Cutler and get the best possible coach for the team and its future. I know people have hope that Cutler is going to turn it around and put the team on his back to multiple playoff appearances and contending seasons, but the Bears should be planning as if that isn't going to happen, because it likely isn't, especially since he might not even be on the team next year. And if he is, he'll have to be really good to be on the team after 2015. That's the argument for trading Cutler now and moving on, I think. If you view the new coach as the next long term direction, and Cutler has his own shelf life, why not start over entirely ASAP?

Well, the mobile version

It's in NFL.com now

thats because the old men McCaskeys probably think it was them playing the 4-6 back in '85

I don't want Toub

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck me

I count 12 hits including Knox, Dusty and Benson. All three of those either ended badly due to injury or moved on and had decent careers although its a disappointing decent career to be picked high in the first round like Benson. I guess the guy can do it but not at Thompson's level. Give him Aaron Rodgers and he's just as successful. sooo..trade Tommie Harris (who fell) with Aaron Rodgers (who fell) and we're good?

I count 12 hits including Knox, Dusty and Benson. All three of those either ended badly due to injury or moved on and had decent careers although its a disappointing decent career to be picked high in the first round like Benson. I guess the guy can do it but not at Thompson's level.

maybe I should use reverse psychology and cheer on the Packers

I dont care, I still want the Lions going all the way. If that means Suh stomps 6 ankles along the way so be it. All the other teams are boring and too recent.

Hire Icky!!! ?

He gets credit for Tillman, Forte, Knox, Tommie (not sure how, everyone in the world knew about him), Vasher and Melton. Or, takes credit: http://media.kcchiefs.com/media/226956/chris_ballard.pdf

It's disturbing when you see how well Darling and Raanta played when he was out. Crawfords contract might cost us Sharp or Seabrook after the year. That said Crawford wasn't that bad most of the game and hasn't been particularly bad this year. Raanta played like a wall, I want him starting and go get a third Cup if we have to lose Sharp You are being ironic, right? It's hard for me to tell. Raanta is a capable back up. Darling could also serve in that capacity. As for Sharp, that has a lot more to do with raises to other players than it does Crawford. If they can find a taker for Bickell after a good playoff performance, they can keep Sharp and Seabrook at least next year. 1/2 hyperbole and 1/2 feeling really squeamish about Crawford. But yes, I'd clearly rather keep Sharp and Seabrook, in order of who I want to keep: Seabrook Sharp Bickell

RIP SS

Ryne "Sandberg" Ween

Ooo goodie

Even up here in Puget Sound, "Bama" fans are totally hatable. I agree

Shannahan/Cutler could be fun, but you still need a strong DC. And just my guess, but I doubt Mike and George are that hip with regards to the young GM

thank god

15 seconds and 45 yrds 2 more bombs?