What it comes down to is that were going to have to look beyond 2012, and I know that can be hard. You can say we've been patient for 103 years, but in reality, non of us have been patient longer than Indians, Brewers, Astros, or Mariners fans. We'd all be thrilled if they could somehow turn this mess into a 95 win team, but thats not very likely. I think we can actually be above .500, but were probably going to have to give them a few years to build a champion, and like I said before, this team has a ton of money coming off the books between 2012-2014, as well as some solid talent on the farm.