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While I agree with the complaint, I do find it odd that the Ohio State coach is the one quoted out of all the Big Ten schools. They're typically at or near the top of the conference standings. They have a very nice stadium that's only about 10-12 years old. They get good crowds for their games. Plus, they're the furthest south of any Big Ten school besides Indiana. That doesn't mean his complaint is invalid, but it might hold weight coming from the coach of Minnesota.

You mean Rico Brogna? He had plenty of time to show what he could do. The Mets gave him over 500 plate appearances when he was 25. The Phillies had him starting everyday for three years. And this was all after posting fairly mediocre minor league numbers.

Definitely not something you see every day. How about twice in one day? Werth did it for the Phillies in the 7th inning last night. The only difference was that he reached on a single.

There's a difference between high expectations and thinking someone is the next Willie Mays. A big difference actually. Based on his posts earlier in the thread, it's fairly obvious he's not a fan of Patterson...which is perfectly fine. However, it certainly appears to be clouding his memory a bit.

No. That's my point. Here's what hccf wrote: So based on hccf's claims, I'm to believe that not only were people ready to put Patterson in the Hall of Fame prior to his 19th birthday, but they were posting about how great he is on what was at the time a non-existent website? .... or would it make more sense to conclude that hccf was simply in error about Corey's age at the time he was referring to ?? I'm not sure that's a safe assumption, considering he was complaining about people crowning Patterson "the next Willie Mays before he even plays a game". Patterson's minor league career began in 1999 when his seasonal age was 19. I guess I'm just sick of the hyperbole. People are intrigued (dare I say "excited") by the potential of a prospect, so apparently that means they think he's the greatest player in the world. Even if he was referring to 2003, then his criticism is unwarranted. Why wouldn't people get excited about a 23-year old, highly-touted prospect showing signs of realizing his potential at the major league level?

No. That's my point. Here's what hccf wrote: So based on hccf's claims, I'm to believe that not only were people ready to put Patterson in the Hall of Fame prior to his 19th birthday, but they were posting about how great he is on what was at the time a non-existent website?

Pre 2005 posts are archived due to site issues a few years back. Was this site even around in 1997-98?

From most all reports, Corey is a genuinely nice guy. But feel free to be bitter and trash him for a joke. I do not doubt that he is a nice guy, an so are the most MLB players. I am sure Bob Howery is a nice guy to and gave this team a better stretch of performance than Corey but some seem to like to abuse his name. My criticism is from the people that instantly lift a 17/18 year old kid up onto a pedestal and crown him the next Willie Mays before he even plays a game, many did that on our site as well as Cub's scouting system. He is one of my arguments that there should be a minimum and maximum wage for all drafted players Oh ya, wasn't a joke I was serious I am hoping that he did use his money wisely to get an education so we don't see him on ESPN E60 with a segment entitled "How the mighty have Fallen." I wish him the best in life Nobody did that, it's a stupid accusation. Member 2007, maybe need to float back to the post of 2003 You mean 2003, when Patterson put up an .839 OPS before blowing out his knee? When he was 23 (NOT 17/18)? I'd really like for you to find a post on here from when Patterson was "a 17/18 year old kid". That would have been back in the 1997-98 range.

Based on what? He hit them well in the minors. Since 2005: vs. RHP (1024 AB): .296/.358/.516 vs. LHP (379 AB): .293/.338/.509 Where did you get those stats? I looked around everywhere, but couldn't figure out how to get minor league splits. http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/

Based on what? He hit them well in the minors. Since 2005: vs. RHP (1024 AB): .296/.358/.516 vs. LHP (379 AB): .293/.338/.509

I believe he's still subject to testing while suspended. He wasn't under contract during this past off-season. I'm not sure how many (if any) off-season tests are required for players under contract ... but they can't test you if you aren't under contract, can they? (not saying this would have been a one-time occurrence, but the risk level may have seemed lower than otherwise) That's a good question.

That's a bit of a stretch. Couldn't they go Dan Uggla and Brian Barden as well? Although I guess Uggla would be more a reflection on Brenly than Melvin. Brenley never got the chance to really manage Uggla though, as he was never called up to the big leagues while in Arizona's system.

That's a bit of a stretch. No kidding. There's nothing special about Bonifacio, his .602 OPS this season, or his career .703 minor league OPS. The guy is fast; that's about it.

I believe he's still subject to testing while suspended.

Not only is Hudson playing a bit over his head, he's probably going to suffer a little without Manny hitting behind him. It's amazing how mediocre that lineup looks without Manny now.

That's simply not true. Garland and Davis are solid options at the back of the rotation. Scherzer has some talent and has pitched well in his brief career. The main issue with the rotation is Webb's injury. Their bullpen, however, has not pitched well, and their offense has been terrible.

How does that even compare? IF you don't swing at a pitch it's ur own darn fault. But if u hit one to the gap, which would be a guaranteed double. But the first step u take your achilies explodes and are unable to continue towards the base should u be credited with at least a single? Now the rulebook obviously says no, as one has to touch a base before the ball gets there. But really a hitter should be credited with a hit in that situation because you could never expect an injury like that. No, he shouldn't. Pitchers get hurt throwing pitches. Runners get hurt running. Fielders get hurt slamming into walls. It's a tough break, but you deal with it and move on. True, but if a pitcher throws a strike across the plate but throws out his elbow, he will still get credit for throwing a strike. Now my feelings don't matter a lick, but I just think it would be unfortunate for a player to hit the ball on the nose somewhere in a gap but still get called for an out because of a catastrophic injury. Baseball is such a hard game to play and hitting a baseball is so difficult, one should be credited for it when he does it. As Kyle pointed out, the pitcher in your scenario has fulfilled the requirement for throwing a strike. The hitter on the other hand has not met all requirements for getting a base hit. Therefore, he does not get a hit. Let's say they start giving hitters first base in the event of an injury. What if a hitter that isn't so fleet of foot hits a rocket that one hops the right fielder, and the right fielder, who has a cannon of an arm, has a play on that runner at first? What would prevent that hitter from falling down and faking an injury to be awarded first base? Injuries happen, and yes, it sucks when an injury turns a sure hit into an out. But it's part of the game. You have to reach base safely to get a hit.

How does that even compare? IF you don't swing at a pitch it's ur own darn fault. But if u hit one to the gap, which would be a guaranteed double. But the first step u take your achilies explodes and are unable to continue towards the base should u be credited with at least a single? Now the rulebook obviously says no, as one has to touch a base before the ball gets there. But really a hitter should be credited with a hit in that situation because you could never expect an injury like that. No, he shouldn't. Pitchers get hurt throwing pitches. Runners get hurt running. Fielders get hurt slamming into walls. It's a tough break, but you deal with it and move on.

Makes sense, I guess. Catcher gets the putout on the strikeout, as usual. On any type of interference call, they usually grant a putout to the closest fielder, which in the case of batter interference would be the catcher. Really freaking odd though to see a catcher with an unassisted double play.

Who cares why he did it? No one is speculating as to the reason why he transferred the ball. The fact remains that he did. Pretty much every umpire will rule it a catch on a successful transfer to the throwing hand. A lot of them will rule it a catch even if you drop it during the act of transferring the ball.

He threw 123 two starts ago.

And all of this makes what Vin Scully did for years that much more impressive. It really does.

He is bad. It surprises me that WGN couldn't find some young pup to come in and do that job, like Provus or Masur. They wouldn't have to pay them squat. The chance alone at all that exposure would attract some of the best young talent, I would think. He is the nephew of one of the WGN radio talk show hosts. I assume that's how he got the gig. Provus and Masur were both really good, esp Masur. Kind of miss him. This might be a really dumb question, but why does Pat take those breaks? I understood it with the young guys on some level, but with a slug that is going nowhere, why do they continue to do this? It's a mystery. Ron has brought it up via faxed questions, but Pat is actually kind of confrontational when it comes up, saying things like 'it's none of your buisness.' I imagine he's on a rigid bathroom break schedule or something. It's not uncommon for a broadcaster to have someone fill in for an inning during a game. When you make your living using your voice, you're going to drink a lot of fluids to keep your throat from getting too irritated. There aren't a lot of opportunities during a game for a broadcaster to get up and use the can. Other teams' broadcasts crews might hide it a little better by having an analyst that will take PBP duties for a few innings every game. It can also benefit the broadcast crew as a whole to have a third person who can step in regularly. Giving him an inning a game keeps him in practice so to speak and allows him to at least build some rapport with Santo. That would come in handy in the event that Hughes ever has to miss some time. Edit: Fixed a typo.

He is bad. It surprises me that WGN couldn't find some young pup to come in and do that job, like Provus or Masur. They wouldn't have to pay them squat. The chance alone at all that exposure would attract some of the best young talent, I would think. He is the nephew of one of the WGN radio talk show hosts. I assume that's how he got the gig. Provus and Masur were both really good, esp Masur. Kind of miss him. This might be a really dumb question, but why does Pat take those breaks? I understood it with the young guys on some level, but with a slug that is going nowhere, why do they continue to do this? Pee break.

Nice job, Bobby Scales.