Mephistopheles

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Yeah he's going to fly up draft boards if he's healthy. His ceiling rivals anyone's outside of Strasburg's among draftable college arms. Just staying healthy will go along way to cementing his status as a top ten pick.

and Jake.

Brandon Workman threw a no-hitter today. Ex Cub pick Victor Sanchez has been off to a good start to the season Player AB R H RBI BB SO PO A LOB ------------------------------------------------------ Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 5 2 2 2 0 1 1 1 1 HR (1) Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 3 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 4 2 2 0 0 1 0 5 0 Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 3 1 0 0 1 1 1 2 0 Sanchez, Victor 3b....... 2 1 1 2 0 0 2 2 0 HR (2)

Lots of rain outs east of the Mississippi today. So some top prospects didn't get any action this weekend. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2009 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.2 5 2 2 1 16 25 26 111 W (2-0) vs Nevada 2. White, Alex......... 6.1 4 1 1 2 5 22 25 100 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 3. Gibson, Kyle........ 7.0 5 2 2 0 8 26 29 109 L (1-1) vs #8 Arizona State 4. Volz, Kendall....... 7.0 4 0 0 3 6 22 27 102 W (1-0) vs #9 UCLA 5. Oliver, Andrew...... 7.0 8 6 6 4 7 28 32 101 W (2-0) vs East Carolina 6. Minor, Mike......... 7.2 6 2 2 3 4 26 31 W (1-0) vs Vermont 7. Leake, Mike......... 8.0 1 0 0 1 10 25 27 105 W (2-0) vs #15 Missouri 8. Smith, Blake........ 2.1 4 4 3 5 3 11 16 vs Long Beach State 9. Tootle, Ben......... Rain Out 10. Heckathorn, Kyle.... 4.0 6 8 4 3 6 21 26 vs Campbell 11. Inman, Jeff......... 6.0 5 4 2 1 3 21 26 102 L (0-1) vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 12. Tolleson, Shawn..... 6.2 6 2 2 3 5 22 26 100 vs Houston 13. Lyons, Tyler........ Rain Out 14. McRee, Alex......... 5.0 3 0 0 4 6 17 21 W (2-0) vs Arizona 15. Wilson, Alex........ 6.0 3 2 2 3 7 21 25 101 L (1-1) vs #10 Rice 16. Stillings, Brad..... Rain Out 17. Thomson, Matt....... 5.0 8 5 5 4 7 21 26 W (1-0) vs #16 Oklahoma 1.0 0 0 0 1 2 3 4 vs Nevada 18. Morgado, Bryan...... Rain Out 19. Fritsch, Craig...... 5.0 7 6 4 2 7 21 23 L (0-1) vs #10 Rice 20. Dyson, Sam.......... 6.1 2 1 1 1 5 21 22 vs #9 Clemson --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2010 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Harvey, Matt........ 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 2 3 14 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 3.0 0 0 0 2 5 8 11 58 W (3-0) vs Seton Hall 2. Loux, Barret........ 5.0 3 3 3 2 6 17 20 vs Houston 3. Solis, Sammy........ Did Not Pitch 4. Workman, Brandon.... 9.0 0 0 0 2 10 25 27 W (2-0) vs Penn State 5. Blair, Kyle......... 2.1 2 0 0 1 4 9 10 38 vs #16 Oklahoma 6.0 2 1 1 5 8 19 26 98 vs Kansas State 6. Pomeranz, Drew...... Rain Out 7. Hernandez, Chris.... 5.0 6 4 4 1 5 20 23 100 W (1-0) vs #24 Florida 8. Ranaudo, Anthony.... 6.1 3 1 1 1 10 21 22 90 W (2-0) vs Central Florida 9. Tepesch, Nick....... 6.1 6 1 1 2 8 24 27 107 vs #8 Arizona State 10. Alexander, Scott.... 7.0 3 0 0 4 4 20 25 W (1-0) vs UC Davis 11. McGuire, Deck....... 8.0 4 1 1 0 7 25 27 97 W (2-0) vs Rutgers 12. Bettis, Chad........ 4.2 7 3 3 3 5 18 23 97 vs Cal State Northridge 13. Eibner, Brett....... 2.1 2 3 3 1 3 9 10 L (0-1) vs Kansas 14. Ruffin, Chance...... 1.1 4 2 2 1 1 8 9 30 vs UT Arlington 6.0 6 2 2 1 9 24 25 93 W (2-0) vs Penn State 15. Raley, Brooks....... 6.0 5 2 2 4 2 21 27 82 W (2-0) vs #5 UC Irvine 16. Rasmussen, Rob...... 6.0 6 3 3 2 4 23 25 vs #10 Rice 17. Robles, Tanner...... 4.0 2 3 3 3 5 12 16 81 vs #15 Missouri 18. Danieli, Evan....... Did Not Pitch 19. Osich, Josh......... 1.0 0 0 0 1 2 2 4 17 vs Northern Illinois 20. Green, Cole......... 8.1 5 0 0 0 7 29 29 101 W (1-0) vs Penn State UR. Goeddel, Erik....... 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 4 4 18 vs UC Riverside --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2011 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Cole, Gerrit........ 6.0 2 1 0 5 8 18 23 104 L (1-1) vs #6 Baylor 2. Meyer, Alex......... 3.0 5 4 4 1 3 13 15 42 vs Western Michigan 3. Maronde, Nick....... 6.1 5 2 0 0 2 23 23 73 vs Louisville 3.2 6 7 4 4 2 16 22 75 L (0-1) vs Miami 4. Gray, Sonny......... 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 4 vs California 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 17 vs Western Kentucky 5. Monneyham, Brett.... 5.0 4 3 3 6 4 16 24 96 L (0-1) vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 6. Hultzen, Danny...... 6.0 6 2 0 1 12 25 26 110 W (2-0) vs Fordham 7. Jungmann, Taylor.... 6.0 5 1 1 2 5 21 24 94 W (2-0) vs Penn State 8. Winkler, Kyle....... Rain Out 9. Palazzone, Michael.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 4 4 16 vs Presbyterian 3.0 1 0 0 0 1 10 10 W (1-0) vs Arizona 10. Pill, Tyler......... 5.1 4 2 2 1 5 20 22 W (1-0) vs #14 Stanford 11. O'Sullivan, Ryan.... 5.0 5 5 3 3 2 19 23 82 vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 12. Cooper, Jordan...... 7.0 3 0 0 1 8 21 24 77 W (1-0) vs North Dakota State 13. Hales, Ross......... 5.0 2 1 1 1 4 18 19 83 W (1-0) vs Centenary College 1.1 3 0 0 1 2 6 7 W (2-0) vs Houston 14. Dicharry, Austin.... 6.0 2 0 0 1 5 20 21 62 vs UT Arlington 15. Roach, Donnie....... 2.1 3 1 1 1 1 9 11 vs UNLV 2.0 7 7 6 2 1 13 16 L (1-1) vs #12 Georgia 16. Tanner, Cecil....... 3.0 4 1 1 0 5 13 14 W (1-0) vs Presbyterian 17. Marrs, Daniel....... 5.0 2 0 0 5 6 16 23 75 W (1-0) vs Appalachian State 18. Moore, Navery....... 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 5 5 vs Vermont 19. Denhardt, Mike...... 5.0 9 9 7 3 1 24 28 92 W (2-0) vs Samford 20. Carpenter, Ryan..... 7.0 3 1 1 1 3 22 23 W (1-0) vs Dayton --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The lack of Sammy Solis pitching is a bit odd. I couldn't figure out if he was hurt or not. He's San Diego's Friday starter and didn't get into any action this weekend. USD didn't have any rainouts this weekend and played five games this week. It could be nothing, but he's their ace. Curious. Evan Danieli didn't throw for the Irish either. If you will recall Danieli is a 6'8" high school teammate of Rick Porcello out at Seton Hall Prep.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2009 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.2 5 2 2 1 16 25 26 111 W (2-0) vs Nevada 2. White, Alex......... 6.1 4 1 1 2 5 22 25 100 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 3. Gibson, Kyle........ 7.0 5 2 2 0 8 26 29 109 L (1-1) vs #8 Arizona State 4. Volz, Kendall....... 7.0 4 0 0 3 6 22 27 102 W (1-0) vs #9 UCLA 5. Oliver, Andrew...... 7.0 8 6 6 4 7 28 32 101 W (2-0) vs East Carolina 6. Minor, Mike......... 7.2 6 2 2 3 4 26 31 W (1-0) vs Vermont 7. Leake, Mike......... 8.0 1 0 0 1 10 25 27 105 W (2-0) vs #15 Missouri 8. Smith, Blake........ 2.1 4 4 3 5 3 11 16 vs Long Beach State 10. Heckathorn, Kyle.... 4.0 6 8 4 3 6 21 26 vs Campbell 11. Inman, Jeff......... 6.0 5 4 2 1 3 21 26 102 L (0-1) vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 12. Tolleson, Shawn..... 6.2 6 2 2 3 5 22 26 100 vs Houston 14. McRee, Alex......... 5.0 3 0 0 4 6 17 21 W (2-0) vs Arizona 15. Wilson, Alex........ 6.0 3 2 2 3 7 21 25 101 L (1-1) vs #10 Rice 20. Dyson, Sam.......... 6.1 2 1 1 1 5 21 22 vs #9 Clemson --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2010 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Harvey, Matt........ 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 2 3 14 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 3.0 0 0 0 2 5 8 11 58 W (3-0) vs Seton Hall 5. Blair, Kyle......... 2.1 2 0 0 1 4 9 10 38 vs #16 Oklahoma 6.0 2 1 1 5 8 19 26 98 vs Kansas State 7. Hernandez, Chris.... 5.0 6 4 4 1 5 20 23 100 W (1-0) vs #24 Florida 8. Ranaudo, Anthony.... 6.1 3 1 1 1 10 21 22 90 W (2-0) vs Central Florida 10. Alexander, Scott.... 7.0 3 0 0 4 4 20 25 W (1-0) vs UC Davis 11. McGuire, Deck....... 8.0 4 1 1 0 7 25 27 97 W (2-0) vs Rutgers 12. Bettis, Chad........ 4.2 7 3 3 3 5 18 23 97 vs Cal State Northridge 13. Eibner, Brett....... 2.1 2 3 3 1 3 9 10 L (0-1) vs Kansas 14. Ruffin, Chance...... 1.1 4 2 2 1 1 8 9 30 vs UT Arlington 6.0 6 2 2 1 9 24 25 93 W (2-0) vs Penn State 15. Raley, Brooks....... 6.0 5 2 2 4 2 21 27 82 W (2-0) vs #5 UC Irvine 16. Rasmussen, Rob...... 6.0 6 3 3 2 4 23 25 vs #10 Rice 17. Robles, Tanner...... 4.0 2 3 3 3 5 12 16 81 vs #15 Missouri 20. Green, Cole......... 8.1 5 0 0 0 7 29 29 101 W (1-0) vs Penn State UR. Goeddel, Erik....... 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 4 4 18 vs UC Riverside --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2011 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Cole, Gerrit........ 6.0 2 1 0 5 8 18 23 104 L (1-1) vs #6 Baylor 2. Meyer, Alex......... 3.0 5 4 4 1 3 13 15 42 vs Central Michigan 3. Maronde, Nick....... 6.1 5 2 0 0 2 23 23 73 vs Louisville 4. Gray, Sonny......... 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 17 vs Western Kentucky 5. Monneyham, Brett.... 5.0 4 3 3 6 4 16 24 96 L (0-1) vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 6. Hultzen, Danny...... 6.0 6 2 0 1 12 25 26 110 W (2-0) vs Fordham 7. Jungmann, Taylor.... 6.0 5 1 1 2 5 21 24 94 W (2-0) vs Penn State 9. Palazzone, Michael.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 4 4 16 vs Presbyterian 11. O'Sullivan, Ryan.... 5.0 5 5 3 3 2 19 23 82 vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 13. Hales, Ross......... 5.0 2 1 1 1 4 18 19 83 W (1-0) vs Centenary 14. Dicharry, Austin.... 6.0 2 0 0 1 5 20 21 62 vs UT Arlington 15. Roach, Donnie....... 2.1 3 1 1 1 1 9 11 vs UNLV 16. Tanner, Cecil....... 3.0 4 1 1 0 5 13 14 W (1-0) vs Presbyterian 17. Marrs, Daniel....... 5.0 2 0 0 5 6 16 23 75 W (1-0) vs Appalachian State ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gerrit Cole throws hard. Real hard. Alex Wilson looked good. Ryan Berry was immaculate. Great day of pitching at Enron.

Stephen Strasburg Pri-O-Meter Date Name IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2/9 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 2 1 1 2 1 5 7 vs Santa Clara 2/13 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 1 0 0 0 3 4 4 vs Loyola Marymount 2/18 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 2 4 4 2 1 4 6 vs Southern Cal 2/20 Strasburg, Stephen.. 3.0 0 0 0 0 3 9 9 vs #5 Cal State Fullerton 2/27 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 3 4 18 vs #9 Cal State Fullerton 3/1 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 13 vs Pacific 3/2 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 5 5 24 vs Pacific 3/4 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 3 3 vs Baylor 3/9 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 4 4 vs Oklahoma 3/10 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 vs Michigan 3/13 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.2 1 1 1 2 4 6 8 vs UC Riverside 3/17 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 4 4 vs UCLA 3/18 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.2 0 0 0 0 1 4 5 vs UCLA 3/22 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 1 3 3 4 19 vs Air Force 4/1 Strasburg, Stephen.. 2.0 0 0 0 0 2 6 6 25 vs New Mexico 4/5 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 5 5 W (1-0) vs New Mexico 4/6 Strasburg, Stephen.. 2.0 0 0 0 2 1 6 10 vs New Mexico 4/15 Strasburg, Stephen.. 2.1 2 1 1 2 1 7 11 41 vs Utah 4/22 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 0 0 0 1 2 3 4 L (1-1) vs Air Force 4/27 Strasburg, Stephen.. 2.0 2 3 2 2 4 8 12 59 L (1-2) vs Texas Christian 5/11 Strasburg, Stephen.. 5.0 3 1 1 0 6 19 19 L (1-3) vs Brigham Young 5/24 Strasburg, Stephen.. 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 19 vs New Mexico --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date Name IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2/22 Strasburg, Stephen.. 8.0 5 2 2 1 7 27 30 W (1-0) vs #9 San Diego 2/28 Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.0 8 4 4 1 5 24 27 vs Cal Poly 3/7 Strasburg, Stephen.. 5.1 7 7 2 1 9 22 25 L (1-1) vs Santa Clara 3/13 Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.0 8 3 1 2 8 26 28 vs Brigham Young 3/20 Strasburg, Stephen.. 8.0 7 2 2 1 9 28 29 W (2-1) vs Utah 3/29 Strasburg, Stephen.. 8.0 2 0 0 1 12 25 27 W (3-1) vs Houston 4/11 Strasburg, Stephen.. 9.0 1 0 0 1 23 26 30 W (4-1) vs Utah 4/18 Strasburg, Stphen... 7.0 4 0 0 0 13 25 25 W (5-1) vs UNLV 4/25 Strasburg, Stephen.. 9.0 1 1 1 1 13 28 29 W (6-1) vs Texas Christian 5/2 Strasburg, Stephen.. 9.0 3 0 0 1 11 29 31 W (7-1) vs Air Force 5/8 Strasburg, Stephen.. 9.0 2 1 0 1 15 29 30 W (8-1) vs Brigham Young 5/15 Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.0 8 4 4 2 3 25 27 L (8-1) vs #11 Cal State Fullerton 5/22 Strasburg, Stephen.. 7.0 5 1 1 3 5 23 28 109 L (8-3) vs Utah --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date Name IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2/20 Strasburg, Stephen.. 5.2 3 1 0 2 11 20 23 105 W (1-0) vs Bethune-Cookman 2/24 Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.2 5 2 2 1 16 25 26 111 W (2-0) vs Nevada --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Year Name IP H R ER BB SO AB BF ERA W L --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2007 Strasburg, Stephen.. 37.0 18 11 10 15 47 128 151 2.43 1 3 2008 Strasburg, Stephen.. 97.1 61 25 17 16 133 337 366 1.57 8 3 2009 Strasburg, Stephen.. 12.1 8 3 2 2 27 45 49 1.46 2 0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Strasburg, Stephen.. 146.2 87 39 29 33 207 510 566 1.78 11 6

2009 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Strasburg, Stephen.. 6.2 5 2 2 1 16 25 26 111 W (2-0) vs Nevada 2. White, Alex......... 6.1 4 1 1 2 5 22 25 100 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 3. Gibson, Kyle........ 7.0 5 2 2 0 8 26 29 109 L (1-1) vs #8 Arizona State 5. Oliver, Andrew...... 7.0 8 6 6 4 7 28 32 101 W (1-0) vs East Carolina 6. Minor, Mike......... 7.2 6 2 2 3 4 26 31 W (1-0) vs Vermont 7. Leake, Mike......... 8.0 1 0 0 1 10 25 27 105 W (2-0) vs #15 Missouri 11. Inman, Jeff......... 6.0 5 4 2 1 3 21 26 102 L (0-1) vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 12. Tolleson, Shawn..... 6.2 6 2 2 3 5 22 26 100 vs Houston 2010 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Harvey, Matt........ 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 2 3 14 W (2-0) vs Seton Hall 5. Blair, Kyle......... 2.1 2 0 0 1 4 9 10 38 vs #16 Oklahoma 7. Hernandez, Chris.... 5.0 6 4 4 1 5 20 23 100 W (1-0) vs #24 Florida 8. Ranaudo, Anthony.... 6.1 3 1 1 1 10 21 22 90 W (2-0) vs Central Florida 12. Bettis, Chad........ 4.2 7 3 3 3 5 18 23 97 vs Cal State Northridge 13. Eibner, Brett....... 2.1 2 3 3 1 3 9 10 L (0-1) vs Kansas 14. Ruffin, Chance...... 1.1 4 2 2 1 1 8 9 30 vs UT Arlington 6.0 6 2 2 1 9 24 25 93 W (2-0) vs Penn State 15. Raley, Brooks....... 6.0 5 2 2 4 2 21 27 82 W (2-0) vs #5 UC Irvine 16. Rasmussen, Rob...... 6.0 6 3 3 2 4 23 25 vs #10 Rice 17. Robles, Tanner...... 4.0 2 3 3 3 5 12 16 81 vs #15 Missouri UR. Goeddel, Erik....... 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 4 4 18 vs UC Riverside 2011 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF NP Opponent --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Meyer, Alex......... 3.0 5 4 4 1 3 13 15 42 vs Central Michigan 3. Maronde, Nick....... 6.1 5 2 0 0 2 23 23 73 vs Louisville 4. Gray, Sonny......... 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 4 4 17 vs Western Kentucky 6. Hultzen, Danny...... 6.0 6 2 0 1 12 25 26 110 W (2-0) vs Fordham 9. Palazzone, Michael.. 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 4 4 16 vs Presbyterian 11. O'Sullivan, Ryan.... 5.0 5 5 3 3 2 19 23 82 vs #7 Cal State Fullerton 13. Hales, Ross......... 5.0 2 1 1 1 4 18 19 83 W (1-0) vs Centenary 14. Dicharry, Austin.... 6.0 2 0 0 1 5 20 21 62 vs UT Arlington 15. Roach, Donnie....... 2.1 3 1 1 1 1 9 11 vs UNLV 16. Tanner, Cecil....... 3.0 4 1 1 0 5 13 14 W (1-0) vs Presbyterian 17. Marrs, Daniel....... 5.0 2 0 0 5 6 16 23 75 W (1-0) vs Appalachian State UR. Goodnight, Michael.. 5.1 3 2 2 2 2 19 21 68 W (1-0) vs Stephen F Austin The rankings aren't anything special..

91 degrees out there today.

Milton Bradley IS effectively replacing Edmonds. There is no debate. It's that simple.

I know, and my weekend will be better than yours. On Friday afternoon I'm seeing Texas play Penn State, then I'm driving home. Saturday and Sunday will be spent at Enron Field, enjoying the premier regular season college baseball tournament.

I believe UNC was the only top ten team to lose last night. They dropped to Coastal Carolina, iirc.

Not that this is wrong, but the Cubs can't offer more money than either of the two teams and Oakland is neck and neck with Anaheim for the AL West. The Cubs are a better bet of course, but all three teams have a good shot at playing late into October.

Chance Ruffin got lit up last night. He looked like trash again. His two seam slider combination has been pretty inconsistent thus far. With the wealth of young pitching Texas has, he might not keep his Friday job for long. We'll see how good (bad) he looks on Friday vs Penn State. 2011 Prospects IP H R ER BB SO AB BF ERA Cecil Tanner, UGA... 3.0 4 1 1 0 5 13 14 2.70 Austin Dicharry, UT. 6.0 2 0 0 1 5 20 21 0.00

ERA measures production.

Alright, fine, you know more than PECOTA or ZiPS and you know their shortcomings, so you're in a position to say that they're wrong and you're right. And don't twist the PMs argument. Don't forget to mention you're the one PMing me, and that's my response to you when you criticize me through PMs out of the blue because you dont like me. I'm not the one instigating that.

hey little kid, dont put words in my mouth. Let's get your damn facts right. 1. I did not say that Javier Vazquez was an "elite" pitcher or a "stud" pitcher. 2. I mentioned that Chris Young was traded for him, and he's a very good pitcher. These are facts. 3. I said that Haren and Vazquez are comparable. 4. It's not cherry-picking PECOTA. ZiPS and Marcel have Vazquez with a better projected ERA. What's pretty hysterical is that you spend multiple posts (and pms) bitching and complaining about me saying that Javier Vazquez is an elite, stud pitcher. And then you have the stones to admit "you still didn't answer the question that would potentially end this argument though. is javier vazquez an elite pitcher?" What have I argued? I simply noted that Chris Young was the centerpiece of a trade for Javier Vazquez* when someone asked what kind of stud pitcher that Chris Young could be traded for. *a very good pitcher whose resume is more impressive than Dan Haren's.

omg

Laugh it up, fuzzball. 198.0 IP, 188:57 K:BB, 28.75 Stuff, 3.58 ERA - Javier Vazquez, PECOTA 210.3 IP, 189:45 K:BB, 28.55 Stuff, 3.53 ERA - Dan Haren, PECOTA Haren's better, but similar is usable.

Dan Haren and Javier Vazquez are similar.

2009's 4.0 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 6:1 K:BB - Graham Stoneburner, Clemson - vs Charlotte 5.0 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 0:1 K:BB - Craig Fritz, Baylor - vs Pacific 2010's 5.0 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 11:0 K:BB - Matt Harvey, UNC - vs VMI 7.0 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 7:0 K:BB - Brandon Worman, Texas - vs UIC 5.2 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 7:0 K:BB - Justin Grimm, UGA - vs Youngstown State 4.0 IP, 11 H, 6 ER, 6:0 K:BB - Nick Tepesch, Mizzou - vs Gonzaga 2011's 6.1 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2:0 K:BB - Nick Maronde, UF - vs Louisville 3.0 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2:3 K:BB - Kyle Winkler, TCU - vs CSF

hes going to end up with a career warp between 90-100 or pretty close.... hes had three seasons with a warp over 8, thats one fewer than zambrano and two more than josh beckett and the same amount as andy pettitte. not that warp means a lot, but it illustrates a point

Yeah, it's not like Young was good enough to be the centerpiece in a trade that netted a four time 200 K guy.

This isn't really the correct way to think about anything. Miles shouldn't be in the lineup over Fontenot, but Miles and Fukudome are completely unrelated. They don't affect each other.