Mephistopheles

You should remember Latos from the 2006 draft! You'll get no such favors from me.

yep thats the point half of the time

neither do i, i was just exploring options.

but to keep in the spirit of the thread Bedards career inter-league stats: 1.93 ERA, 11.2 K/9

his era does not really matchup to his periphs

And a lot of fans of other teams are thinking the same thing. Fortunately for your sanity our offers would not have been able to hang with offers from the Sox and Yanks.

I might have made an idea for Bedard but without Roberts. I don't recall coming up with one with Bedard and Roberts. We'd probably have to go something like Felix Pie, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall/Sean Gallagher, Ronny Cedeno, Matt Murton and on of {Veal, Gallagher/Marshall, anyone else in the system}. Still in the end lots of spare parts for Bedard and Roberts. I know I remember something... lemme see. Oh, it was including Hill, my bad. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=45628&p=1651723#p1651723 One alternative is a trade of Matt Murton to the Padres in exchange for a B prospect, like Will Inman. Inman and Tillman are fairly interchangeable (Tillman's better, Inmans more of a sure thing and Inman is an example it could be Matt Latos if we sent a decent prospect (say Chris Huseby)). We then turn around and package Felix Pie who is comparable to Adam Jones, Will Inman/Matt Latos who is comparable to Chris Tillman, Donald Veal who is comparable to Tony Butler, and then we can throw in Sean Gallagher and I guess Cedeno to beat their deal and add Roberts. It's contingent on the Padres liking Murton enough to pry (hopefully) Matt Latos out of them. Padres Get: Matt Murton, OF Cubs Get: Erik Bedard, LHP Brian Roberts, 2B Orioles Get: Felix Pie, OF Matt Latos, RHP Sean Gallagher, RHP Sean Marshall, LHP Donald Veal, LHP Ronny Cedeno, SS I guess it's possible. The Cubs system would be basically Geovany Soto and a bunch of decent guys under 21 or under but given the Cubs commitments to Zambrano, Lilly, and Hill and now Bedard, they won't need a quality pitcher from the system until 2010. They can draft that guy this year and he ought to be ready by then (Tyson Ross, etc). The Cubs have similar commitments across the outfield outside of CF. Which would be a glaring hole, but Colvin's still there (and pretty much the only decent prospect above A ball). We have lots of commitments around the infield. Our near term farm system would be thinned out completely, but we really don't need it. Why not trade it? Most of the guys are blocked anyway. It'd be nicer to just get Bedard with taking out Cedeno and Latos and adding say Chris Huseby or whoever and then hoping Murton and Cedeno is enough for Khalil (it isn't), but we're not even on Khalil's tail

nah, Piniella has shown he has become somewhat cognicent(sp?) of watching young arms. Bedard isn't even young. hes a year older than hill.

for the record, any person who walks a lot is going to be described as looking bad on more than one occasion. that does not mean he cannot hit the changeup. idiot writers arent that smart.

i dont think hell have a problem with the changeup, curve or anything like that. He's going to have problems with a two seam fastball.

Do you even know who Chris Tillman is?

I might have made an idea for Bedard but without Roberts. I don't recall coming up with one with Bedard and Roberts. We'd probably have to go something like Felix Pie, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall/Sean Gallagher, Ronny Cedeno, Matt Murton and on of {Veal, Gallagher/Marshall, anyone else in the system}. Still in the end lots of spare parts for Bedard and Roberts.

and what a sexy sheep it is.

greenes less likely to wind up in jail, so greene

Guerra does have the ceiling to be a #1 if he ever got that curveball. I can't believe the Twins didn't get Fernando Martinez out of this trade at least. Awful, it sounded like the Red Sox were offering more a few months ago in those rumored trades. to project him developing a good curveball is similar to projecting ben revere to hit 25 HRs annually.

Maybe this will force Hendry into an arms race with the Mets ala Red Sox/Yanks. So he trades for Bedard w/o giving up Hill. Ill take that ;) Funny, the offers being thrown around by the Ms for Bedard is better...then again they're not spending 110m over 5 years though

I'm glad neither team got him, or we would be hearing about Johan Santana, as much as we are hearing about Tom Brady. The Mets getting Santana---at a VERY steep, but worth, IMO---doesn't really affect us, so I am not really concerned about it. How does it not affect us? Assuming we even got that far, how would you like facing Santana 3 times in a 7 game NLCS? and a healthy Pedro Martinez?

Kevin Mulvey = Back of the rotation kind of guy. Deolis Guerra = good fast/change combo. #3 more than likely, possible #2. Carlos Gomez = defensive CF with tools but can't hit. Philip Humber = Plus curve, average other offerings. Back of the rotation guy.

I don't know? What's a 30% increase in expected playoff probability (ie DOUBLING OUR PLAYOFF CHANCES)? Answer: Quite a bit.

Getting Furcal as our shortstop is much more than a "marginal upgrade." I don't think you fully grasp the magnitude of Theriot's suck. Furcal bottomed out last season having the worst season of his career, and he still was better than Theriot. Furcal's not an old cat yet. He just turned 30. He has at least three more quality seasons in him. Rafael Furcal will easily bounce back to his overall line the previous four years. That's an upper .270s EqA with above average defense. Theriot's suck will likely improve a bit, but to what? A .250 EqA? That's a 25 run difference on offense, likely another 10 or so on defense. We're talking about a 30-40 run difference between Theriot and Furcal. By comparison, that's a greater increase in production than going from Felix Pie to Grady Sizemore.

And he batted 130 times less than Pierre. Pierre was more efficient with the bat than Theriot

my scout sources said maybe this offseason he can get his fastball up to 83 mph! Unless you two want some time off, I'd suggest you two stop being jack asses and drop it. i wasnt making fun of him as much as i was robbie grossman. dont implicate me.

My number savvy detracting from the greatness that is the NSBB? Do you really want to post at a place full of Joe Morgans?

oh please.