goonys evil twin
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With many more signings like this, we'll hit the $115 million mark pretty soon without seeing much improvement in the team.
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He's a below average hitter and has never been an everyday 2B. And he'll be 32, 33, and 34 during his 3 year deal. DeRosa had th 5th best OPS among all qualified 2B in baseball last year. Even with regress from 2006, he's not below average. Not many people would recommend only listing a player's career year when thinking about what he'll do in the future. That's not smart. It's darn right foolish in fact. 98 OPS+ in 2005, 59 in 2004, 84 in 2003. That's a wide range, with some atrociousness and mediocrity. He's also not an everyday guy, never has been.
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Spending millions for such a lack of production can very well impact other positions, negatively.
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I'm guessing this is a case of Lou wanting his very own little Placido Polanco.
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He's a below average hitter and has never been an everyday 2B. And he'll be 32, 33, and 34 during his 3 year deal.
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Tremendous pop does not mean anything. Production is what matters and that encompasses more than pop. Guys over 30 usually aren't as productive as they were under 30.
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That's a waste of $4+ million per year for a guy who will be lucky to be average the next 3 years.
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How much? And why? 3/6 (2m per) and maybe this is justified. But he doesn't help the offense. If next year's middle infield is Izturis and DeRosa, the outfield better get much better.
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Nobody is saying that, though. This is how you avoid disaster contracts like the Yankees are saddled with right now, and like we have been in the past. You don't sign a 30 year old guy (outside of a real superstar like an ARod or Pujols) coming off a career year to a big money long-term contract. I'd take it a step further and say you don't sign a fat 30 year old who has never been anything special and has a career OPS+ of just 113, (while you have a 24 year old with a career OPS+ of 111 who is poised to improve, already in that position) when that fat 30 year old is looking for a longterm 8 digit salary. Now, if the 30 year old played a position of great need, and was immensely more productive than any internal option, and his expected salary was more in-line with what he is likely to produce the next 3-5 years, I'd consider it.
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It's going to suck the next few years. But it is one of the easiest places to get to by transit. Park by Penn Station and take the LIRR out. Park a car by Penn Station? No thanks. I'll just walk downstairs and take the E to the 7.
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Well, players *do* decline in their 30s after career years in their late 20s and even early 30s. Lee won't have the benefit of steroids/HGH to help him later on, and quite frankly, Carlos Lee doesn't seem to be the type of guy who's a gym rat - a feature that is needed for most players to keep going at career high levels well into their 30s. then Sabathia, Zambrano, etc. will all suck soon too? Why are you using the word suck? That's dishonest. Decline does not mean suck. Besides, pitchers peak years are a completely different story than than hitters.
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That's absurd. It was crappy all game. It was windy the whole time. Even if the rain was not coming down at the specific time, it was going off and on all night, and poured on occasion. If you're going to worry about a QB handling the weather, look at Brady or Eli this weekend. Grossman handled it as well as any QB could handle the weather.
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About what? Pretty much all of those guys had career years at or before 30 and never repeated those numbers after 30. In fact, that's about the worst possible list you could come up with for support of the claim that Carlos Lee won't decline in his 30's.
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No, don't you see? Once baseball players hit the mythic age of 32, they automatically go down every year (even when they don't) That's a pretty silly way of putting it. Players decline in their 30's. It's just a fact. It's a different rate for every guy, but it happens. Whatever a guy has done in his mid-to-late 20's, he is most likely not going to eclipse that in his 30's. By and large, signing free agents after their age 30 is a losing proposition, because you are paying for what he used to do, and not what he is going to do. There are exceptions of course, especially if you can get some sort of discount for whatever reason. But a guy like Lee, in this market, isn't going to get a discount. AL teams that can stash him at DH can more easily justify bringing him on board. But NL teams with young corner OFers who are several years away from free agency and already putting up above average production would be wise to stay away from Lee. Murton's career OPS+ = 111 Lee's career OPS+ = 113
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Saying Grossman did nothing in bad weather is just incorrect. I know it got a little less bad as the game went on, but it at least misted for most of the game, and while the seating area didn't seem to windy, the field itself, as usual, had swirling winds. If you looked at the flags on the goal posts, this was obvious. It poured just before halftime, and rained steadily multiple times during the game. Eli looked affected, Rex did not. I remember one specific terrible punt by Marnard, but I don't think he was awful, given the wind conditions. Giants Stadium screws with kicks, much more than Soldier Field does.
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wouldn't an era+ of 90-110 make him an average 3rd starter rather than an acceptable 5th starter? I certainly would not include anybody at a 90 ERA+ as an average 3rd starter.
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Yes, and he's not worth anything more than a spring training invite. He's been crap ever since his mediocre rookie year (135 IP, 103 ERA+)
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I agree with this. And that's why I'm open to the idea of guys like Westbrook and Jennings, and could deal with a guy like Padilla at the right price or maybe even Miguel Batista if he is dirt cheap.
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I never said these guys had no value, or they could never help the Cubs. I said next year they shouldn't be given starting roles. All of what you wrote speaks to the idea that these guys have a future. None of it supports the idea that they should start for the Cubs in 2007.
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Buster Olney can think what he wants. But Wood said long ago that he was resigned to being a reliever in 2007. It's absurd to think he would have been given a job as a starter next year.
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I truly hope that Hendry is not counting on any of the above named pitchers to start the season in the rotation. Last year they all proved that they weren't ready quite yet. next year isn't last year. Next year isn't a good year to put those guys back into prominent roles either. They stunk. And will most likely continue to stink, as none of them showed any sort of progress as the year went on.
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Also, look at the end result. Lee ($10m+) and Westbrook ($5.5m, plus he's going to be a free agent), or Murton ($350,000) and INSERT FREE AGENT PITCHER HERE ($10m+). You save a lot of money keeping Murton both now, and in the near future.
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Because Carlos Lee isn't better than Murton, but he's costs a heck of a lot more.
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See, the thing is, he's not a top of the rotation starter. Hence the "overrated" label. if he's not a "top of the rotation" starter, i'm not sure what is. Take a look at his ERA+ over his past 7 seasons. Anybody who doesn't acknowledge that he has not been, over the past three seasons, the same pitcher he was his first four seasons, is dishonest. He's good. But he's no ace. we're not talking about an "ace", we're talking about a "top of the rotation" starter. there are only a few actual aces out there in the national league, i think the cubs have one of them. You are right. He's a pretty clear cut 2.
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I'm amazed that everyone gets all excited about what these agents "leak" to the press. Agents "report" that 10-12 teams are looking at their client, #4 & #5 starters are going to average $10 million per year, and stars want $100+ million over 6-7 years. I think the only player that might warrant a 6-7 year contract is Cabrera. Certainly no pitcher should be signed for more than 4 years. The reason these agents make so much money is because they can really lay it on thick. The reason these agents make so much money is because they can really make a lot of money for their clients. They aren't paid for talk, they are paid for results.