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Of course not, why should they? I'm just saying that the rhetoric doesn't always match that feeling. The vitriol towards Colvin stems from the organization seemingly insisting he's likely to be more than a 4th/5th OF.

I guarantee you that nobody here has a problem with Colvin actually being the 4th/5th OF.

It's not hate to value him lower than better players. Correct. It's hate to be absolutely convinced that he sucks now and will suck in the future when he's still pretty young and has shown some potential. I agree with those that value him lower than Brett Jackson and I am concerned about his ability to be selective at the plate and have a good OBP. But sometimes, they way he's talked about is rather absurd. Horse [expletive]. The Cubs have been making very strong hints that they want him to be the starting RF if they could move Fukudome, and that's just absurd.

And they beat the Saints because the NO defense [expletive] the bed. When you give up 36 points you're not usually winning that game.

I don't know why people are talking like moving Castro to 2nd would be some kind of punishment or demotion.

Yeah, I was just coming here to post about this. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6004943

[expletive] yeah. Loved this one.

You're right. I was just glancing at his AA numbers. I'm sure you guys know this better than me, I just glanced at his results and didn't see anything that screamed "No. 1 prospect in No. 8 system" And that's why the Bum took your job.

I had been wondering what happened to the old dexter who made such a memorable splash in the Cubs game threads.

Nah, they're pretty good. Just not good enough without Noah.

So trade them for a better player or one that better addresses the team's needs. Selling high is fine.

People keep bringing up Pie like he was a bust the Cubs let go. He's had injury issues with the Orioles, but he's certainly not a bust at this point. I was annoyed when the Cubs effectively gave up on him and wish he was still here now.

Just wondering... but how did the offense do in the post Piniella hot stretch? I'm asking honestly... I didn't really watch and I'm too lazy/busy (lol) to look it up. Don't look it up. You'll be really let down. Most of the winning they pulled off last year was due to the pitching. The offense was really, really wretched for most of the season.

That's a gigantic "if."

I disagree. I think that there will be a significant improvement from last year's club to this year's. It may not be a huge improvement, but it will be enough that I consider them watchable again. Call me a fair weather fan if you want, but gone are the days where I just automatically give the Cubs my time and money blindly because I'm a fan. At 31, I just can't afford to invest myself emotionally to every game of every season in the longest season in sports anymore. If they're bad, I'll find some other, more valuable way to use my time like read a book, spend time with family or do laundry. There's a pretty big area in between watching every game and not watching any games.

Great dude but he'll be behind Fukudome, Byrd and Colvin on the OF depth chart. Oh [expletive], it's that guy?!?!? He sucks, but this deal is suddenly awesome.

Man, now I REALLY wish it was Colvin. You'd have Cubs fans breaking into Wrigley so they could protest by leaping to their deaths onto the field.

You'll probably stop watching in May again unless Garza can also club the hell out of the ball.

Cashner.

Yes. Quite a few people.

.... let me guess, you are pissed because you think we gave up a lot? I'm not pissed, but yes, barring the other two players from Tampa being good the Cubs did give up too much. That's the kind of package that should go for a better player than Garza. I disagree. I think you over value our prospects just a tad. Yes, our system is on the up tick, but still not devastatingly potent. If Kansas city were to give up the same ranked prospects within their system, then I would be peed off and breaking things. We did a 5 for 3, and greatly improved our rotation in the process. The biggest point of this trade working for us is found in our system still retaining its best young players. I'm not overvaluing anyone. I'm basing this on the ratings of our prospects, their performances thus far vs. Garza. If anything, you're undervaluing them and ignoring their rankings/analysis from around baseball. I'm not saying any one of these guys is better or more valuable than Garza on their own, but combined there's a very real chance that the Cubs are giving up too much for a guy that isn't going to put them over the top, or even near the top, and for an area they didn't need to overpay for to improve. This team needs offensive improvement much, much more than pitching, and I'd rather see our highly regarded prospects being packaged for an every day offensive player that's going to have much more of an impact, or if they were going to go for a starting pitcher go after someone who is better than Garza if they're going to sell high and give up that much.

.... let me guess, you are pissed because you think we gave up a lot? Without knowing what the Cubs got in return (besides Garza), they did give up a lot. I'm not seeing it. Isn't Garza what we hoped Archer would become? And Lee, I don't buy that he was going to ever be anything more than a light hitting, fast, good defensive SS. The other two, who cares? Who cares about Guyer?

.... let me guess, you are pissed because you think we gave up a lot? I'm not pissed, but yes, barring the other two players from Tampa being good the Cubs did give up too much. That's the kind of package that should go for a better player than Garza.

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Glad you appreciated it that much. I'm taking this routine on the road. Don't tease us like that.