There were a ton of Cardinal fans at those Dodger games this weekend, especially yesterday. The Cards fanbase is very large, not just a "few parts" around the mid-west and St. Louis. Include southern Illinois, parts of Indiana, southern Iowa, most of Arkansas, Oklahoma, parts of Tennesse, and the many people who get KMOX hundreds of miles away from St. Louis but had no local baseball team to root for when they grew up. And I don't think Cubs fans want to start throwing stones over bandwagon fans. Where were all those loyal cub fans in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and most of the 90's? Definitely not at Wrigley. Prior to 1999 the Cubs averaged over 30,000 fans per game only twice, ever. They've only drawn over 3 million fans once, ever, in 2004. I know there are plenty of absolute die hard Cubs fans out there, but for the past few years the Cubs bandwagon has been monstrous. dont for get Kentucky...there are alot of Card fans here also :wink: 1st post here: I am a card fan and look forward to some good discussions