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Hossa screwed up pretty bad against the Czech Republic
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Yes, I don't think it would look very good to free agents if the Bulls started playing like one of the 5 or so worst teams in the NBA for the rest of the year. The fact is is that Bosh, Wade, James, JJ, etc. can all stay home for more money on teams that are already better. Or Wade can tell one of the others to head on down to South Beach instead of taking a risk on Rose and Noah being players you can win a title with. Chicago's a great city and a great market but you want as many positives on your side as possible. After all, New York's a great market too. I'm not saying I wouldn't clear more cap room. I would. I would just be very wary of making deals where you get absolutely nothing in return and could result in a quick plummet to the bottom of the Eastern conference. Rose/Hunter Pargo/Brown Deng/Johnson Gibson/K. Thomas Noah/Miller That's one of the worst teams in the NBA.
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salmons/tyrus/hinrich are not the difference between a playoff berth and tanking. When Salmons and Hinrich TRULY sucked at the beginning of the year and Tyrus was hurt this was legitimately one of the worst teams in the NBA. Basically Johnson, Pargo, Brown, et. al. are going to give you early Kirk/Salmons level of suck and if you have no Tyrus either you're looking at a really bad product. Probably better than that early season funk because Rose is rocking but still awful.
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You're looking at a bad team with them. I think this is a 45 win team as currently constructed. The schedule is pretty soft from here on out. It's not THAT bad a team.
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You're separating the quality of the supporting cast from the team's record which doesn't make any sense. The record is a reflection of the talent, unless you think Vinny is working miracles here.
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If you could evaporate Salmons, Hinrich, and Thomas you're looking at a pretty bad team man. Not because those guys are so great but you'd be giving those minutes to some combination of Jannero Pargo, James Johnson, Devin Brown, and Chris Richard. It would be ugly.
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And what I'm saying is it's ridiculous to act like the same thing is going to happen now. FA's aren't going to suddenly tun on the Bulls because Salmons and Hinirch (hopefully) and Tyrus are gone. If you totally gut the team and get no viable player in return to pick up some of the slack, even only as a half year rental, you could easily see the Bulls slump into 10th place or worse and end the season on a prolonged down stretch. It wouldn't look good. That's why I was all go for a trade involving Allen, TMac, or even someone like Redick. The ideal scenario is to clear enough room to sign two max guys (or at least one max guy and another good player) while still remaining in this group with Toronto, Miami, and Charlotte in the standings. I'm not saying we should hold onto Hinrich just to stay there but it would be a good selling point RELATIVE to the dreck that is the Nets and Knicks.
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Nice D on that possession.
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The Bulls are the 6th seed currently and only 3 games out of 5th. But they're only a 1.5 out of 9th too. The range is smaller than you're making it out to be.
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What I'm saying is that we lost out on two superstar free agents to a team that would've been totally forgotten by everyone if its starting center hadn't become the first athlete in a major American pro sport to publicly out himself as a homosexual.
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The last time the Bulls went into a big free agent market they had just come off a dreadful year in Brand and Artest's rookie year and they came away with like Eddie Robinson when Hill and TMac were on the market. They both went to an Orlando team that STARTED Tariq Abdul Wahad, John Amaechi, Chucky Atkins, Darrell Armstrong, and a young Ben Wallace. That team scrapped its way to a .500 record and just missed the playoffs while the Bulls went 17-65. Now Krause probably poisoned the well so badly that no one worth a damn would've wanted to come here but we didn't even stand a chance against Orlando. Competitiveness matters.
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You have to show a product that is competitive and showing potential while still having the money to go after a big name. The Knicks might strike it rich but they're taking a giant gamble on their 2010 plan. The Bulls could strike out too but I think they're dealing from a position of relative strength compared to the Knicks (or the Nets for that matter). When you don't the hometown pricing power or the NY brand you've gotta differentiate yourself in other ways. The Clippers, for example, have money and seemingly have talent, but they don't win ever. It's a losing culture that just permeates everything around them. The Bulls would do well to avoid it and the best way is to just win.
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At best the Bulls can offer equal or less money to any of the FA targets. So of course how good the roster is currently plays a role. It's different for every guy but it has to go into the equation. Supposedly these guys care about winning so if you can't beat anyone on price you better bring some other things to the table. It's just nutty to assert that the talent level of the team, reflected in its conference standing, doesn't make a difference. And if we didn't sign a single FA the experience for Rose and Noah alone in the playoffs is valuable. I think that was clearly illustrated last year. Those were big, pressure packed games that generated a ton of national interest. Game 6 was voted the Playoff Game of the Decade and the series as a whole were voted best of the decade on some TNT special they just ran. That has value to the guys on the team. You can't tell me the front office didn't learn anything about Noah in that series. And aside from all that, I have no clue as to why you wouldn't care if a team you're ostensibly a fan of makes the playoffs. They can be outrageously entertaining on its own merit.
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I still maintain that making the playoffs is important in the FA beauty contest and should at least be a consideration when making deals. Cutting salary is more important but there needs to be a viable team left. Plus I just love the playoffs and last years was awesome.
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Sweet getting run out of the building by the Knicks.
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They'll need to hold on to Murphy to prepare for the upcoming Race War prophesized by Charlie Manson.
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It's not out of the realm of possibility that McGrady could go somewhere, play well for 30 or so games, and sign a 1 or 2 year deal in the offseason for reasonable money.
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If you're not gonna get traded the least you could do is bury an open jumper Kirk.
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What the hell are the Clips doing here? Salary dump. They can offer a near max deal now with only Gordon, Kaman, Griffin, Davis, and a pick under contract for next year. If they weren't the Clippers I'd say they've got a potentially very good core. They'll be tanking the rest of the year for sure now.
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http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/64795/20100217/cavs_make_deal_for_jamison/ Jamison to the Cavs apparently a done deal.
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Unless we had a sign and trade, that's correct. That's a bummer. I'm slightly surprised that we can't unload Hinrich...he's been playing well and seems like he's exactly what the Lakers need plus he's got a declining contract. People are probably hung up on his overall numbers he was probably the worst player in the league the first month of the season.
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They must be really concerned about Salmons opting in. I figured that had a small chance of happening. We can't even target ONE max FA if we still have to pay Salmons right?
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I wouldn't be stunned if Kentucky made the Final 4 or anything. They're pretty good. Sometimes you don't win every game by 20 points and sometimes you fatten up on a weak schedule and make deep tourney runs. Calipari did it at Memphis and Florida did it in the SEC.
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Are we really clearing any more cap room under the rumored terms wrt to TMac? It seems like the deal is to insure that we don't have to pay Salmons next year if he decides to opt in.
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I used to sort of hold my nose when people talked about signing David Lee but considering he'll be quite a bit cheaper than Boozer or Amare, you could do a lot worse. I figured he was sort of a glorified energy man who got cheap stats in D'Antoni's system, and he is to an extent, but he's pretty legit--can finish with either hand around the bucket, good midrange jumper, and he's got a few moves and good footwork down low. You do have to hide him on defense because he's is pretty atrocious although the Knicks have such horrible perimeter defenders and such overall team stupidity its hard to tell how bad he really is on D.