SpongeWorthy
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when you're missing the threes over and over and over, yes.... they are better options. your whole argument is that it's okay that he's taking shots that he's proven he can't hit consistently.... because the other options aren't good either. that's a weak argument to me. "yea, might as well keep taking threes that you won't make.... everyone else sucks anyways. championship!" Yeah, asking someone like Taj Gibson or Keith Bogans to generate offense with any sort of regularity is a worse option than Rose taking an open three. He doesn't actually go 0-5 every game.
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If he's making them at a decent clip, no. I'm more concerned about smart, veteran defensive teams that'll trap him outside the line. And then our complete lack of a 2nd ball handler is exposed.
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Did you not understand the part about threes not existing in a vacuum dex Rose passes up an open look behind the 3 point line. Ok fine, but THE PLAY DOESNT END THERE. He either passes it to his far, far less talented teammates or drives into defense that wants him to drive. These alternatives are not necessarily better than him taking a high volume of threes. Obviously he can't go 0-5 every game (and he doesn't).
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now compare their field goal percentages. also, rose is taking more three's than any of those guys. Yeah, Kobe actually has running mates that can stay on the floor. Lebron has Wade and Bosh. When it was just Lebron in Cleveland he'd be jacking up 5+ threes a game consistently. So if you want to compare us to the Cleveland teams of the last few years...I can entertain that. Lesser star player but a better coach. But I didn't expect the Bulls to be legit contenders this quickly. When the Bulls have a 2 guard and health out of the front line Rose will be more of a lead PG than the guy that has to do everything to generate a decent look.
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haha. you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate. he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game. Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum. preferably something that doesn't involve brick after brick Yes that would be nice. Or he could pass it to the bevy of ball handlers around him or his reliably healthy low post options.
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Compare Rose's 3 pointer percentages and volumes to Wade, Lebron, and Kobe. They're pretty damn similar.
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haha. you're right, the shot selection isn't the problem. he just isn't a three point shooter, yet he's taking them at a crazy rate. he's trying to force the three pointer to be part of his game. Well he has to do SOMETHING with the ball. He stops taking all these threes you're worried about and he's playing right into the teeth of the defense that is sagging off and playing the drive. The threes don't exist in a vacuum.
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I literally haven't seen him force it at all. Seriously, any #1 perimeter scorer worth his salt takes those shots. All of them.
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You're right, they'd never beat a decent team, especially on the road, with a shooting night like that. Playoffs are a different animal. I do think the Bulls are probably putting too much pressure on themselves to play 48 minutes of great defense.
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What specific 3 point attempts have you had a problem with? I haven't seen them. There's been a heat check, here and there, but by and large he's getting decent looks that any #1 perimeter scorer needs to make (and he's more of that than he is a PG). He's probably tired and needs another offseason to make his release point more consistent. Guys are constantly going under screens, doubling the post, or just playing way off to protect the drive. He just needs to shoot it better...the shot selection isn't a problem, IMO.
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I didn't see tonight's game but all the people raging about Rose's 3 point attempts...are you actually watching the games? I haven't seen him get out of line. When you're sagging way the [expletive] off and clogging all the pass/driving lanes, he needs to take (and make) them. Forcing drives that aren't there are just as bad as forcing bad perimeter shots. And if someone kept a statistic this dumb I'm sure Rose would lead the league in end of quarter heaves because he's the only ball handler on the team. Anyway, stop letting an idiot like Hollinger get in your head. He's a buffoon.
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What am I supposed to be worrying about?
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yikes, i'm on the wrong side of every game in progress
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ND fans should be grateful that their rogue outfit isn't getting the death penalty.
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boom and why was that guy walking the ball up the court like that?
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clean block IMO
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Good lord
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Lol at this clown javale mcgee
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The Wiz are a team full of Tyrus Thomases. Seriously. This barely qualifies as basketball.
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The Wizards are [expletive] comical.
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Its a shame Lu had to trade his FT shooting ability in order to grow a pair. Definitely a net positive though.
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Scal? Is that what it's come to?
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And the Bulls offense is easily bottom 3-5 in the league if you subbed out Rose and gave CJ Watson starter minutes.
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Hollinger will reflexively point at his favored stats rather than admit that maybe they don't accurately capture the value for all kinds of players. It's just as bad as being immediately hostile to numbers in the first place. And I saw someone on RealGM post some pretty convincing numbers that according to the normal metrics favored by Hollinger types that Rose is clearly rating out as a good defensive player this season--it's just that the second unit is historically good (literally one of the top defensive units in league history) makes him not look as good by plus-minus measures. Of course, the 2nd unit has the luxury of feasting on other second units and playing at full throttle for the short periods of time they're in the game.
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lol cowherd He probably resisted twitter because it's hard to lecture people on how to live your life like a high powered corporate executive and other high achiever types in 140 characters