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I wanted CA but I'm hoping for the best.

If it's 8/30 I hope they pass. I wouldn't want him on the Cards for that price however the Cubs can better absorb a contract like that. If the Cubs signed him for that they better win the WS after 2 years because afterwards things might get ugly. Anyway, I don't see the Cubs getting seriously involved when they have a 3B locked up for many years and ownership is in flux. * *Yes, I know he can play SS or 3B however PR wise I think ownership can play this card to most fans.

Fair to note, though: Unless the rules have changed in the last few years, I don't believe teams directly receiving revenue from jerseys. I think it is shared equally among all teams. I believe they receive the revenue if it's purchased in their territory. I'm not 100% sure though.

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's? He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod? In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline. A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment. ARod is not in his mid 30s. He's 31. He'' does he'll be 39 at the end. Five is more like it with some options. Boras/ARod might be greedy but he/they are not stupid. He's actually 32 (I thought he was 33, doh!).

Antonetti will have us ready by 09. :wink: If you get Antonetti I'm going to have a fit. :getyou: Not to hijack the thread but it's looking very, very likely.

Antonetti will have us ready by 09. :wink:

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's? He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod? He's more likely to be the 06 player but I'd say he'll actually somewhere in between the two. You're most likely right for 08, particularly if he plays in the NLC.

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's? He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod? In decline? Huh? He just had the best year of his 14 year career. ARod is quite simply not even close to a player that is in decline. A player in his mid 30's is in decline. He also has a higher probability of injury and collapse. Don't' get me wrong, ARod is awesome but 8/30 is a major commitment.

Theo isn't the type of GM who likes to commit at least 8 years to a guy in his mid 30's. Particularity after a WS championship. Consider Lowell's defense he's a really underrated player.

$9M (very good player) vs. maybe $30M (great player) Is the difference between very good and great worth approx. $20M? It's far from an obvious decision. Plus A-Rod would command perhaps 5+ years, and the Sox supposedly don't go for that kind of thing... Lowell will get more than 9m a year.

Just out of curiosity, how come...is it so they can't go after any other FA's? He's a player in decline and I don't think he'll stick at SS (maybe fore 1 year). Going forward which do you think is more likely - 06 or 07 ARod?

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I hope the Cubs break the bank for him.

Or giving love to Wainwright. It's nice to see you acknowledged his performance this year.

How much did the Mulder trade undermine that notion? Not much IMO, he has many more hits then misses.

He was pretty good with the Cards. true, 110 ERA+, 1.2 WHIP. Really think that will last? Not a chance.

For game three, I must have made that tub girl at Hi-tops reload 2 or 3 times. Don't ever underestimate the healing powers of Jaegerbombs and beer. You met tubgirl at hitops??? That had to have been a mess. That website has been trumped by 2girlsonecup. Don't do it. Why did I do that?

For game three, I must have made that tub girl at Hi-tops reload 2 or 3 times. Don't ever underestimate the healing powers of Jaegerbombs and beer. You met tubgirl at hitops??? That had to have been a mess.

He was pretty good with the Cards.

You're welcome. Jason Marquis - the gift that keeps on giving.

It's good to see I got this thread moving in the proper direction...

That's the going rate for horrible starting pitchers.

Ken Rosenthal says 2 years, 13 million.

yet, the single biggest reason for his success was an amazing player development story. AP is huge no doubt but I argue acquiring players like Edmonds, Rolen, McGuire, Kile, Williams, Walker and Renteria for next to nothing were the biggest reason for his success. You can argue that was the greatest GM run for acquiring players in the history of baseball. It's amazing how great the Cards were considering how little their farm system produced. but producing one great player is better than producing numerous average ones. McGwire didn't have much success did he? I would add Carpenter to your list as he and Pujols were the biggest reasons for the Cardinals success. I won't try to downplay getting Rolen and Edmonds though as they were the difference between 90 wins and 105 no doubt. Although Rolen was kind of a gimme, Edmonds was a brilliant pickup. I agree with your 1 great player vs many avg players comment. McGwire was amazing for the Cards and I didn't add Carp because Walt didn't trade for him. I don't mean to downplay AP because obviously he's huge but I've always felt the Cards kind of lucked in to him, which admittedly isn't entirely fair but I think there's some truth to it. My overall point is Walt's chief strength as a GM was dealing for players which is much harder to do in today's baseball environment. No doubt about it - I have mixed feelings about him leaving.