The Saints play the 49ers once, the Panthers twice and the Seahawks on the road, so they are definitely a factor in the WC, despite how unbeatable they can look. It looks like the Bears will need an 11-5 or 10-6 if the two losses are to BAL and CLE. A win this week gives a little bit of a margin of error, but the best hope may be a slide by SF, CAR and/or DET back to 9-7. Right but the Saints are currently 3 games up on the Bears with the H2H tiebreaker, it would be a total collapse for them to fall behind the Bears at this point, and short of an injury to Brees, the Saints are simply too talented for that to happen. I was thinking of it mostly as a hedge to San Fran and Carolina finishing really strongly and knocking off NO in those games. It basically prevents a scenario of an 11-5 team missing the playoffs on tiebreakers. In all other respects, NO dropping into the WC pool by losing to Carolina is a pretty bad outcome due to the H2H.