mjohnson71

That's true. 95% of the world's problems can be fixed with duct tape. Leaky pipe? Use duct tape. Rip in the seam of your tent? Use duct tape. Girlfriend won't shut up? Use duct tape.

When they were going to build a new Fenway, the two footprints would have crossed. And I think the new Yankee stadium might be built the same way.

Apparently a few days ago on the other side of the stadium they destroyed a supervisors truck when he parked in the wrong place and debris fell on it. :lol:

I'm no engineer, but could have told you this was going to happen. Apparently the framework for the new jumbotron/scoreboard of Busch Stadium 3 was damaged recently by falling debris from Busch Stadium 2. http://www.kmov.com/slideshows/051118_stadium_slideshow_files/slide0034_image022.jpg http://www.kmov.com/slideshows/051118_stadium_slideshow_files/slide0036_image038.jpg http://www.kmov.com/slideshows/051118_stadium_slideshow_files/slide0037_image040.jpg All I can say is :lol: .

True. What was his batting average this season? Wasn't it something like .263? Weren't a lot of his dings with bases empty?

Nobody has mentioned the Poston brothers: they're a bunch of jerks. I do remember a NFL draft a few years ago and someone from ESPN was interviewing a GM. They asked why they passed on a player and took another. The GM looked right into the camera and said "I'll do everything I can not to draft a player represented by Drew Rosenhaus."

As of Sunday 11/13 they look to have demolished about 1/4 of the outer ring that remains. http://www.johnsebben.com/photos/DM/20051113A052P.jpg http://www.johnsebben.com/photos/DM/20051113A025P.jpg I don't know why this is interesting me so much. I'd only been to the old Busch about 15 times.

A new picture from 11/11 http://www.johnsebben.com/photos/DM/20051111A001P.jpg

A shot of the inside and right before the first drop of the wrecking ball: http://www.jgardnerphotography.com/0fd26130.jpg Looks like they used one of the press/luxury boxes as target practice.

New shot from evening of Tuesday 11/8. http://www.kmov.com/slideshows/051108_stadiumdemo_slideshow_files/slide0060_image038.jpg

Looks like they're also working from the inside: http://www.johnsebben.com/stlbaseball/files/173_7334.JPG I guess these are the movable seats that were no longer moved after the football Cardinals left St. Louis in the late 80's.

Cards fans are b*tching at stltoday.com forum about same slowness. Besides unhappy neighboring businesses, uneasy insurance companies, a water main running right under current Busch and tunnels nearby: here's another reason why they didn't implode the current Busch. From a fan website some shots show how close the current construction of Busch III has come to the old place. http://www.johnsebben.com/photos/DM/20051103A006P.JPG Apparently this shot shows the framework for the new jumbotron in the outfield. The shot is dark but it only looks like a few feet from the old place. http://www.johnsebben.com/photos/DM/20051102A026P.JPG This shot shows the seating section along the third base line. The concourse around the stadium has already been taken down.

Oh for crying out loud - the Kingdome was in at least as tight a space. They imploded it with no problems whatsoever. Silly people. While not out in the middle of a giant parking lot with nothing nearby, the Kingdome had plenty of room: http://magliery.com/Graphics/FH/kingdome.jpg http://www.controlled-demolition.com/images/kingdome/step5.jpg

Oh for crying out loud - the Kingdome was in at least as tight a space. They imploded it with no problems whatsoever. Silly people. The Kingdome was well away from anything else. I think Three Rivers was very close to Heinz Field and they imploded it. I don't think the tightness is the major problem in St. Louis. A number of tunnels nearby and the fact that an extremely large water main runs directly under the current Busch prevents the implosion option.

I didn't say "historically significant", so save your preposterousity for someone else. I said it has more memories. I should have said, more SIGNIFICANT memories. Some of you may not put much value in the historic significance of winning a baseball championships, but I disagree. Bob Gibson's 17 strikeouts in Game 1 of the '68 World Series comes to mind. Lou Brock's record-setting stolen base. Mark McGwire's record-setting home run. Boston's first World Championship since 1918. The fact that it's parked in the shadow of one of our country's most significant man-made features (the Arch), and just blocks from the Mighty Mississippi. Wrigley or Busch? It may be futile to argue one's significance over the other. They're both memorable, for different reasons. Keep in mind that I didn't start this banter. My point is that it's silly to make a post that implies that there would be reason to cry over Wrigley's demise, but not Busch's. THAT, my friend, is "preposterous". Give me a break. :roll: If you go east towards the river from Busch you have it separated by a parking garage, a bland hotel complex that eats up a whole block, 8 lanes of ugly interstate and the Arch grounds. The Arch grounds are nice and then what do you have on the Mississippi riverfront? A few cars parked on cobblestones and a few lame-a** attractions on barges. Look across the river to East St. Louis Illinois and what do you have? A grain elevator and an ugly casino. Look at Pittsburgh and how great they integrate PNC park with their rivers. Granted the Reds don't have much on the Ohio side of the river. But walk across the bridge over to Covington KY and there are a number of restaurants and bars on the river.

I don't see any way that is possible. I agree. I really don't see anything historically or culturally significant about Busch Stadium. Wrigley Field is baseball. I hate to say it, but I agree. Looking forward to taking a trip to St. Louis to check the new place out after it's 100% complete (sometime mid-season). Thank goodness they went with an open air ballpark and not some retractible roof goofiness like Miller Park. Also glad to see they're not installing stupid things like all the gimicks at Minute Maid or Petco.

Love the sig Outshined_One. (and I'm not even a Star Wars dork)

You're talking about the explosive C4. C9 is the military version of the old DC-9 passenger plane. (Army brat.) They planned to implode Busch II but will now be using a wrecking ball. Someone I know in the commercial property insurance business said the insurers of the surrounding buildings got their panties in a bind and demanded the Cardinals not use explosives.

Here's another photo I grabbed off of the stltoday.com forum: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Cardz82/iPhotoiPhoto-mailtmp-0.jpg

Do they have the AG Edwards Dome as a backup option to play at if the construction of the new Busch is not done in time? maybe that can collapse to That would be nice. I don't hate St. Louis or the Rams (only hate the Cardinals). But IMHO football ought to be played on God's green grass and under His blue sky. Domed football is stupid.* * The Arizona Cardinals are the only exception with their new domed stadium. You need it down there in that furnace.

Reports out of St. Louis say that Jim Edmunds is demanding a trade to the Chicago White Sox. Wonder if this picture did it for him: http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20051027/capt.hta19010270538.world_series__hta190.jpg

Do they have the AG Edwards Dome as a backup option to play at if the construction of the new Busch is not done in time?

Good arial shot of both Buschs. http://www.kmov.com/slideshows/051026_stadium_slideshow_files/slide0041_image002.jpg

Let's pray for Wrigley to survive the night. Lord knows if you throw too many drunk Sox fans together, they'll consider burning it down. Too bad I don't live in Chicago...I would have gone out as well, wearing my Cubs stuff proudly. It's a good thing Sox fans probably haven't learned to manipulate fire. That's funny. Mind if I borrow it for a new signature? Edit: Sox fans know how to manipulate fire. How else would they cook meth and freebase cocaine?

Some Cards fan who works in downtown St. Louis is posting pictures daily of the demolition of the current Busch Stadium. Here is a link: http://stlbaseball.johnsebben.com/index.php?page=2&gallery=20051026A Each url is for a different day. That link is for Wednesday 10/26.