OK. IHP mentioned he thought the ballpark was beautiful though. His complaints seemed more driven by the antics of the fans and the music being played than anything, unless I misread what he was saying. I can see a city like Cincy needing to be a little more budget-minded than some other places. I think it's understood they have a little more trouble drawing fans than some other places around the league -- and that it likely won't change until they go on a playoff run. That said, I'd still like to see a ballgame there. Heck, I've been wanting to see a game in KC too. And that place is probably a little on the sparse side too, in terms of number of seats taken. I just went to KC on Friday for a bachelor party and was mighty impressed. I've been to the Dome, Wrigley, the cell, Oakland, Pac Bell, Chase field, and Angels stadium, and outside of Wrigley this was probably tied with Pac Bell as far as experiences go. I saw SF play Pittsburgh last year and Tiny Tim threw an absolute gem so that was pretty darn neat. Friday they gave Grienke his CY award and that was pretty cool. Even for a Friday game, against Boston, the place wasn't all that full. But the fans were knowledgeable and seemed respectful, and only once did they play any stupid music to get the fans going (I think it was when Soria was laboring to get Pedroia out to end the game). Overall a really neat stadium and one worth the 5 hour trip for me again this year for sure. Kaufmann is a nice place to watch baseball but I haven't been there post-renovation. I went there a couple of years ago and had a good time as I guess the Twins/Royals are big rivals. Even then the place was still only 2/3 full on a nice summer weekend ngith. The one thing I really noticed is it was a lot of families. Even though it wasn't a kids promo night there was a lot of dad/mom/kid(s) combos. That's an uncommon sight at Wrigley. Though the big difference is Kaufmann is in the middle of a huge parking lot and there's nothing close by to pre/post party. It's the antithesis of Wrigleyville.