who cares about carlos pitch count. obviously dusty doesn't he is going all nine if this is close. I care and I venture to guess Dusty does as well. oh you must have missed the last two years when we completely disreguarded them then. Like in 03 when we are up 8-0 in the playoffs and we let a 22 year old Mark Prior throw 125 pitches. Dusty doesn't give a rats behind. That's your opinion. Perhaps if Dusty had a reliable bullpen he would use it regularly instead of allowing his starters to go deeper than some.. Zambrano has not been misused. Now back to the game. was it my opinion that had Z throwing over 140 pitches against the phillies in a game in April? Z has been abused big time. 'Abused' is a subjective term. There are pitchers that routinely pitch 140-150 and never have arm problems. Livan Hernandez comes to mind. It depends on the individual as well as the stress involved in the pitches.