Look, I know you guys have some incredible talent coming especially in '10. If Iowa was recruiting like that I would be super excited also. But does every single Illinois discussion have to turn into "wait for 2 years"? I swear it seems like it gets thrown into every Big Ten discussion. Hell all I heard for a year was "wait til E.J. gets here" and we know what happened. Now that's completely different and I'm not saying that will happen with any of your current commits. But could we just talk a little more about the upcoming season and recruits that are at least signed? We will be better than them and you this year. Does that make you feel any better? Also we were as bad as we have ever been last year and still beat you at your gym. So as far as an Iowa fan is concerned, "what happened?" We beat you in your gym and made it to the Big Ten finals. Hell you would have hung two banners for that if Alford was still your coach. We got very depressed. God you are a hostile, angry man. I don't see how I talked any junk about your team at all, but in usual form you resort to juvenile smack talk. When even the Cub and Illinois fans on this board call you a lunatic and completely unreasonable, it's time for some self-examination. Seriously man, chill out. Oh and you're really going to try to talk after going 15-19, 5-13 in the league? Really? Because you finally beat Iowa in Carver when we had a first-year coach, misfit roster and only 8 scholarship players able to play? And you ask "what happened"? LOL Weber is 3-2 at Iowa. Yes he finally won at Carver. :roll: Also what the hell am I as an Illinois fan supposed to talk about. I could pretend we are and have been good, or I could just face facts and say we have been bad and look forward to better times. Hell I could even convince myself we were rebuilding, although that works a lot better when we are bringing in the type of recuits that we have committed. I really could give two craps what a bunch of random people on an internet message board think of me from posts I make on it.