5.40 ERA 1.60 WHIP I guess people think that's good around here. Compared to last year, its probably good. We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis. No offense, but thats under the same line of thinking as "Who cares if his ERA was 6.02, he won 14 games!" No. Marquis did his part to win the game. He go no run support. I don't know a pitcher out there who wins a game with the offense putting up goose eggs. Agreed. No use splitting hairs here. It's not splitting hairs. Follow my logic. You say that if the Cubs did their part and scored runs, then we'd win the game. So if every game, Marquis threw 5 innings of 3 ER ball. And most every game, the offense responded and won. So at the end of the year, Marquis won 20 games and had a 5.40 ERA. Any way you look at it, he would have had a bad year statistically. It doesn't matter that he won 20 games, when being judged and compared to the rest of the pitchers of the year, his numbers would be quite poor other then wins and losses. I doubt every game the Cubs make three errors. You can't base an entire season on 1 game. He wasn't great today, but he was 1 inning away from a "quality start". If it wasn't for the two Izzy errors, he probably would've of gotten there.