C.C.

But he was refuted by Oscar, Grover, Bert, and Ernie. And Elmo laughed hysterically in the corner.

That has been reported for about 6 weeks now.

Never going to happen, wipe it from your mind.

I guess he considers Pie in the deal? Hey buddy, Didn't you know this is the "argue about whether Ryan Theriot is really bad or just kinda bad" thread? Oh wait... It's already been said that Fuku won't be playing center.

Nobody is saying Cedeno is good. Him and Theriot are both terrible. At least Cedeno has an, albeit slim, chance to improve. Theriot is absolutely worthless. The problem is, he can't hir righties. He never could in the minors either, so much so that they tried to turn him into a switch hitter. That obviously didn't work so they scrapped the idea. Now he's in the majors and gues what? He still can't hit righties. He's not a patient hitter. Stop coming up with excuses why the stats are wrong. They aren't wrong. Theriot doesn't get on base, doesn't hit for average, doesn't hit for power, and doesn't play good defense. He's fast and that's about it. I like the the way Theriot plays and I think he's a good guy, but it's pretty obvious that he's just not that good. Theriot won't make it through this season as the starting shortstop. Nice name n00b.

Dude, what are you talking about? Marmol's value is not higher than Hill's or Bedard's. Not even close. That trade proposal of yours would be a gigantic disaster. Are you really getting fooled this easily by Bedard's 2007 season? He's good, but not that good. Hill is locked up for cheap. Bedard is expensive and only under contract for 2 more years. Not to mention he's almost 29 and has yet to pitch 200 innings in a season. Is Bedard better than Hill? Yes. Is he so much better that we offer a ridiculous package like that? Not even close. What are we giving up exactly? Sorry I used "we".... What are the Cubs giving up exactly? I think Hill will be a good major leaguer, but he is already 27-28 years old so he isn't really young. Pie is the only other player in the deal who might be worth something to the Cubs but based on what I've seen from him, he really could be another Corey Patterson and "the cubs" might be better off just signing Lofton or putting Fukudome in CF and DeRosa in RF. Pie can be replaced easily. That being said, the rest in my offered trade are just garbage and will never have an impact on the Cubs. Cedeno? Theriot will play over him for the next few years, Theriot brings more to the table than Cedeno. Murton? Where whould he play? Patterson? They say he was the worst defensive 2B in all of baseball. Dempster is getting booed out of Wrigley every night, and people are still complaining about drafting Colvin so early. You have to give up some to get some. I actually think the trade would be something like Hill, Pie, Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, Dempster, Patterson for Bedard and Roberts. And you guys wouldn't want that? None of those guys will turn out to be stars like Bedard and Roberts. Gallagher, Murton and Cedeno for Roberts is a steal for us...... Hill, Pie, Patterson, and Dempster for Bedard? In my opinion that is a steal for us as well. The package they are getting from Seattle could be better than that. Sorry I dont wanna argue about this anymore. It is my opinion that Bedard is a ridiculously good pitcher and doesnt compare to Hill. And I think that Marmol being a lot younger and could start for us if we chose would be a better starter than Hill and will soon be a stud closer is more valuable than Hill. Just my opinion.... anyways, the Mariners have Bedard and hopefully we can throw some type of Gallagher, Murton, Cedeno, Dempster package for Roberts and Payton. What difference does that make?

I'm thinking BR is a Cub tomorrow or Tuesday.

So the deal is done? We finally got Greene! Oops wrong thread....

I'd like to see a upset by Depaul tonight. I can't stand Marquette.

What would be the point of trading him? I'd rather just keep him then... You'd rather just keep him than trade him in a package for Greene? Sorry...I meant to say if we didn't get Greene, I'd rather we just keep Murton then. Ah, gotcha. Makes sense now. Too many cold ones at the corner pub last night. Whew!

What would be the point of trading him? I'd rather just keep him then... You'd rather just keep him than trade him in a package for Greene? Sorry...I meant to say if we didn't get Greene, I'd rather we just keep Murton then.

What would be the point of trading him? I'd rather just keep him then...

It would suck if Murton out performed Fuku.

My guy says it is. No, my guy does. You called him a basterd and said you wouldn't trust him. You're mistaken. That was my other guy.

My guy says it is.

And JOKE obviously isn't full yet.

They have been saying that for two months!

I know that bastard and I wouldn't trust him.

Almost to 133..

Really? That surprises me...

Nope!

It'll only come back stronger.

Howry's contract just gets cheaper and cheaper.

It's all about pitching depth baby!

It keeps going and going and going....