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I don't know for sure that all those guys thought it but the one that mattered didn't. http://www.mlb.com
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Look at the video. Here are the people that thought the umpire punched the batter out: 1) The umpire on first 2) The umpire on the line 3) The Angel players 4) The White Sox batter in hte on deck circle 5) Every broadcaster calling the game 6) The security guards who were taking their positions I'm sure there are more, but it's hard to argue this point when the other umpires are going to their position between innings and even the Sox player on deck is walking to the dugout.
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That drastically changes things If Scioscia actually heard that being yelled by the home plate ump then the umps have a problem. Read lips?
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That drastically changes things
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The funny thing is that this isn't the first time the players have been confused by his mechanics:
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ha ha, I love the avatar
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He did what he was supposed to do. He gave the signal that there was no contact and then rung him up. Now had he given the no contact signal and/or yelled "No catch" then it would be a different issue. If he's so sure that he didn't catch the ball he should've called no catch instead of punching the batter out.
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This was printed earlier in this thread. In addition, BBTN did a video recap of every incident like the one in the bottom of the 9th. He clearly did the same movement for every swinging strike that was not dropped. In regards to rules, there is nothing I can find that says that an umpire has to say a ruling. In regards to the delayed call, here's what MLB tells the umpires under rule 9.05:
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If an MLB has to yell it to be an out then what's the purpose of making the signal?
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He pulls his arm in and clinches his fist, which is what I always thought was the signal for out.
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Regardless of whether or not he saw the signal he was called out by the umpire.
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Indecision yes, but the fact remains the same that he DID call him out. I think he called it a strike but did not say out loud he was out. Then why the extra hand motion after giving the signal of no contact? Why make the effort to bring your arm in, clinch your fist, and give the out signal? Little kids in t-ball know that when an umpire clinches his fist that you are out.
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Indecision yes, but the fact remains the same that he DID call him out.
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Watch the video. He doesn't throw the ball on the field until the umpire is clinching his fist giving the out signal.
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AJ never saw the umpire signal that he was out. When AJ is looking back at the umpire he is signalling that there was no contact. True but he felt compelled to run....why? http://a.abcnews.com/images/Sports/CXS20710130327.jpeg
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AJ never saw the umpire signal that he was out. When AJ is looking back at the umpire he is signalling that there was no contact.
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Or the umpire should've upheld his call
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Nothing, which was why AJ said he ran. But then again, AJ didn't see the umpire signal him out.
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After watching the replay I'm not so sure of that. It's certainly not a situation where he threw the ball to the mound, took 5 steps and then the umpire clutched his fist for the out.
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ALCS: White Sox Defeat Angels 4-1
Chris replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
He said he'd rather be lucky anyways -
It looked to me that the other ump said he couldn't see what happened for sure and thus making it Eddings call. Who is the crew chief for this group? Enrico Polatzo. :lol:
