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schools don't have emotions. I doubt they feel ashamed at not getting invited to a party. no, but chancellors and provosts and faculty do. being left out of a collaboration like that could ruffle feathers. btw, for the poster who joked about the CIC melting down about adding KU...what about Nebraska. Not exactly Yale in the plains there, either.
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there's a lot of talk about that. i guess the plane that was flown to OK city, Lubbock, etc has scheduled a trip to KC. I'm not getting my hopes up. lol, oh lord. this is like a rivals message board when a school is looking for a new coach...people tracking planes and isht haha, it's worse than that. There's an article on the front page of the Rivals KU site. This craziness has extended well beyond posters tracking planes.
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there's a lot of talk about that. i guess the plane that was flown to OK city, Lubbock, etc has scheduled a trip to KC. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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this is true, but in the end they are gonna do whatever they can to keep up with the Jones' our only real bottom feeder in football is Vandy and maybe Kentucky, and they aren't really a given to beat when you play them. kentuckys really not too terrible anymore. i cant see mizzou being much worse than them if they were in the sec. Missouri would be better than a lot of current SEC schools at football, IMO. So Carolina, Kentucky, Vandy, Auburn, Miss St, Arkansas, Ole Miss. MU, right now, is at least as good as all those teams. Not necessarily historically. But currently.
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that's not really a joke either, is it? I mean, people in the SEC take that pretty seriously, don't they? Or is that just me stereotyping?
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Culturally, it's not a real fit. And I'm by no means trying to present the state of Kansas as on the progressive vanguard or anything. But it isn't a southern state in any way. Culturally, it's much more western/plains. Missouri is a much better cultural fit. My time in StL convinces me of that. MO culture has a very southern sensibility imo.
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If KU DID go to the SEC with aTm, Duke, and UNC, I really like the potential division we'd be in. NORTH DIVISION KU SOUTH DIVISION Florida Georgia Tennessee Kentucky South Carolina Vanderbilt Alabama LSU Mississippi Arkansas Auburn Mississippi State UNC Duke aTm
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the real question is does it benefit any of them from a hoops perspective? I'm not really sure it's a benefit to the Big East schools to run the hoops gauntlet they have to do every year. And the ACC has a pretty nice football TV package as it is.
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I'm not really answering your question. However, to say the Pac 10 is an academically strong conference isn't the entire story. It rivals South Africa for inequality from best/richest to worst/poorest. At the top, it's possibly to probably the strongest power conference academically. From top to bottom, it completely lacks depth. It has four outstanding universities (Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC), one very good (Washington), four decent/average (Arizona, Washington State, Oregon, Arizona State) and one poor (Oregon State). I see absolutely no reason Kansas wouldn't fit academically, especially when the conference is considering Texas freakin' Tech (and Okie State for that matter). What's so bad about Oregon State? According to USNWR, they're a tier 3 institution. Snood, how would you feel about Kansas in the SEC with aTm, UNC, and Duke? I feel like we'd probably never play in another bowl game for the rest of my life. And that would suck, because I really want KU to develop a football program. The hoops would be bananas, though.
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I'm not really answering your question. However, to say the Pac 10 is an academically strong conference isn't the entire story. It rivals South Africa for inequality from best/richest to worst/poorest. At the top, it's possibly to probably the strongest power conference academically. From top to bottom, it completely lacks depth. It has four outstanding universities (Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC), one very good (Washington), four decent/average (Arizona, Washington State, Oregon, Arizona State) and one poor (Oregon State). I see absolutely no reason Kansas wouldn't fit academically, especially when the conference is considering Texas freakin' Tech (and Okie State for that matter). What's so bad about Oregon State? According to USNWR, they're a tier 3 institution.
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Just out of curiosity, how is everyone here assessing academic prestige? Because I hear a lot about schools like KU not being a fit in the PAC 10 when they're rated above 5 of the existing schools per US News. And I hear a lot about schools like MU being academically too good for the SEC, when 5 of the 12 schools currently in the SEC rank above Mizzou in the current US News rankings, with Tennessee and South Carolina coming in just after them. Are we dismissing those rankings because they're a joke? If so, what's the basis for evaluating? btw, here are the USNWR rankings by conference: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/2009/03/03/college-rankings-by-athletic-conference.html
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If it makes you feel better, I'm still not sure if I'd rather Mizzou go to the MWC and be one of the best schools in a slightly lesser conference than have to deal with SEC lunacy in everything. I don't know if I have the energy to follow my team in a conference where I hate everyone in it. If you had your druthers for MU and could pick one of the following, which would it be: PAC 10 replacing aTm MWC with Big 12 remainders Eastern division of Big East with Big 12 remainders
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so 1. OSU 2. MSU 3. UM 4. PSU 5. INDIANA 6. PURDUE 1. NU 2. ILLINOIS 3. UW 4. IOWA 5. MINN 6. NEBRASKA i'd say that's a favorable basketball division for the illini. the west seems much worse in both sports, comparatively speaking. Football: OSU, UM, PSU > UW, IOWA, and NEB Basketball: OSU, MSU, PURDUE, and Indiana if they ever recover> UI and UW Not a lot of competitive balance, imo
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I bet the SEC would have some interest in Mizzou I agree. According to ESPN: If those schools are off the table, then there aren't many other places to look. I think Missouri would get examined. (They'd be a great natural rival for Arkansas and open up some new markets.) maybe Memphis. Maybe they backtrack a bit on a few of the ACC schools.
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sorry...a 20 team basketball league? That would suck donkey balls. If this really is about football, if wonder if the Big East will ultimately have to cut ties with the one sport schools, even though those are some of their marquee schools from a hoops/academic perspective. (Georgetown, Nova, Marquette, Seton Hall, St. Johns, Providence, DePaul) It sounds like 16 superconferences are going to be the first step toward the death of the tourney anyway. Once these 64 schools have all the clout in football, what's to stop them from organizing their own hoops tourney down the road?
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There have been other reports that said otherwise. I don't know if anyone knows the answer to that one. Well, it's a secondary concern right now for the Pac-10. Their priority right now is negotiating with Texas. agreed. the 16th team can more or less be whoever as long as UT comes. OU is no small prize either.
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There have been other reports that said otherwise. I don't know if anyone knows the answer to that one.
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At this point I'm not pro-Big 12 because I hate Beebe and Texas, but I'm more pro-Big 12 than I am pro-CUSA. To be honest, I'm mostly pro-Butters-gets-to-keep-his-job-after-next-season, and I don't know if that happens if we're in the CUSA. Mountain West maybe. I'm not saying I'm pro-Big 12. That conference is dead. I'm saying I wish there was a way we could both end up in a legit conference. I don't see how, though.
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I'll admit I just like taking shots at Missouri because it's fun. Like I said earlier, Missouri was the first real outward sign of Big 12 fragility, and that didn't help. But it really is and always has been a Texas question. TIn the end, they got too cocky. They knew teams like ISU, Baylor, Tech and KSU didn't have the clout to do anything. They knew KU had limited clout and would have a ton of trouble bolting and leaving KSU behind. OU had it great, too, and OSU was too weak to forge out on its own. They didn't care what CU did because CU has always been replaceable. What they didn't anticipate was Nebraska or Mizzou having the clout or balls to explore other options. And i think they NEVER thought the Big 10 would go for a school like Nebraska. Still, it's funny to see Mizzou (and its fans) backtrack and try to get all pro-Big 12 at the last second. None of this was their fault. But they sure look a like a patsy on the surface. I actually would still prefer to remain in a conference with them. It's a real rivalry. Playing them was always a blast. It's fun to have games that mean something, even when they don't mean anything. It's what keeps you interested, even in the times your team sucks.
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The funniest/saddest thing about Beebe: Every Chip Brown tweet, vague rumor, AD press release, etc has a multi-page thread of its own on the KU message boards i read. Dan Beebe's presser has one thread with a handful of posts. Everybody knows the guy is a stooge with absolutely nothing meaningful to say right now.
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Does that mean stage 2 of Delaney's master plan is to cripple the Big East into submission, forcing ND to join up?
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Yeah, Beebe is so dumb, it's hard to believe anything he says. Also not sure what Delaney has to gain by saying that. ETA: What conference? If all the reports are true, there isn't a Big 12 left anymore.
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Dennis Dodds just tweeted that Delany told Dan Beebe the Big 10 is done raiding its conference. Which would suggest Missouri to the Big 10 is not happening.
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So who's a more legit source? Purple Book Cat or CHip Brown? Because Chip Brown has been steadfast in his assertion that UT is not going to the big 10
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Nebraska's in. You'll need another if Notre Dame changes their mind. They're sort of in. There's nothing in ink yet, I'm sure the Big Ten has let them know they're good to go but if Delaney wants to turn super-heel, he could hit Nebraska with a chair and reveal a leprechaun shirt. oh man would that be the greatest thing to ever happen. especially if doing that somehow opened a sinkhole that swallowed columbia missouri
