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I know for a fact that A LOT of Aggie fans are sick to their stomach at their fave schools dependence of Texas. The ones I know were screaming to go to the SEC, but apparently the TAM leadership didn't listen what the fans wanted, but what their pockets wants. As for the Big 1+11-2 Conference, 5 years is highly unlikely. I'd give them half that time, before other schools in the conference have buyer's remorse and jump ship. like who? OU, aTm, and UT have no reason. They're making money hand over fist, and every other school is willing to smile and take it. Outside of Mizzou, no one else has any options to go. We've seen pretty clearly that no one is knocking down any doors to grab KSU, ISU, KU, or Baylor. Tech and Okie Lite are only worth a crap if they tag along w their big brothers. The conference will be fine as long as the big 3 are happy with their dough.
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I think KU was really resistant to fighting to break away from KSU. Which was dumb. I have to feel like MU will still jump at the first chance to leave. If I were Alden, I'd be sending fruit baskets to the Big 10 and SEC every week.
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T Boone Pickens hates Mizzou, too. Video here
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So you're saying you have Paul Pierce commemorative wheelchairs in both Kansas and Boston colors? I hate the Celtics. They just happen to be playing the one team I hate more. I really hope Boston pulls this out so I get to be in the epicenter of Lakers failure. So just in Kansas colors, then? Joking aside, I fully understand the Lakers hate. I'm sure a majority of their fans have a superiority complex. One of my good friends is a Yankees fan and he's pretty obnoxious about them and I imagine most Laker fans are the same way. gotta root for my former Jayhawks. He's not too shabby of a player, either. I don't care if he's been stabbed in the face and ridden a wheelchair.
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air force would be a complete disaster. they have rigorous academic standards and instead of leaving for the nfl after finishing college, you leave for afghanistan. schools like navy and air force can be competitive in second tier conferences but would get absolutely killed in the big xii or any bcs conference. i'm reading the terms of the tv contract are locked and would not be open for renegotiation if we added teams. So i dont think there will be a rush to do that.
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Do you have any ideas for who to add? Honestly, there aren't any schools that get me even a little excited outside of BYU, maybe Utah. Arkansas would be awesome but impossible. TCU would further Texify the conference. That's one more team to vote however Texas does in any future negotiations, and it adds precisely ZERO tv sets. And it doesn't add anything other than a football team that's good right now, from a sports perspective. ANd don't give me any BS about baseball, because if I can't talk about KU hoops in this equation, then we sure as hell don't get to talk about College baseball or other college sports nobody cares about. Boise St--pass. Commuter school with a football team that probably doesnt look nearly as good after playing real teams week in and week out. AFA--pass. i actually like AFA, but nobody cares about them. CSU--that's like a less attractive CU. NMU, NMSU: nice markets, no actual sports value. UNLV: ditto
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just what we need, another texas school
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If the Pac 10 does take Utah and the Big 12 takes AFA and BYU, Boise State is gonna be PISSSSSSSSSSSSSSED.
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People can spin it all they want--Big 12 with CU and NU was infinitely better than Big 12 w/o them or Big 12 w/ Air Force and BYU.
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Not when the Pac 10 takes Utah.
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If KU really was poised to get the last Pac 10 invite, this whole thing hurts KU more than anything, imo. Now Utah gets invite to #12. Big 12 breaks up again in 3-5 years. The same suspects travel west. aTm goes SEC. KU gets nothing. Newsflash, KU isn't a big deal. I would have thought this whole experience would have made that clear. Huh? I think my post makes it pretty clear I understand that. This was our last best chance to end up somewhere meaningful. If it ends up falling through, we're screwed, because no one is really beating down our doors. Thanks for "setting me straight," though.
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who's watching? The state of Texas and the other 14 people in the Big 12 footprint? No cable carriers will feel compelled to carry a Big 12 network outside of those areas. So are you telling me that if someone like Kevin Durant shows up at a school in this league again (which will happen), he's going to be broadcast nationally playing against EVERY school in the league. Now the lesser teams (not talking about KSU as our entire bball schedule was televised last year) like Baylor get broadcast nationally, and gets some exposure. People WILL watch that just to see someone like Durant. I get where you're coming from, but you can't be so short sighted about it. Are we talking about two different things? If there's a dedicated cable network for Big 12 sports, it won't be carried anywhere but in Big 12 land. Unless it's part of some super duper premium sports tier elsewhere. And I doubt carriers in across the country are going to all of the sudden make it part of the basic cable package because Kevin Durant part 2 walks into the league for one season. Maybe I just don't get the way a Big 12 network would work. Am I missing something?
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you have faith in Dan Beebe? YOu're willing to best KU's athletic survival on him? I'm not.
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who's watching? The state of Texas and the other 14 people in the Big 12 footprint? No cable carriers will feel compelled to carry a Big 12 network outside of those areas.
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If KU really was poised to get the last Pac 10 invite, this whole thing hurts KU more than anything, imo. Now Utah gets invite to #12. Big 12 breaks up again in 3-5 years. The same suspects travel west. aTm goes SEC. KU gets nothing.
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They want to make aTm look like the bad guy. They also have absolutely nothing to lose. They can stay in the Big 12, rake in 25 mil for 3 years, then go wherever they want when it deteriorates again. Why should they care when the conference falls apart? They'll never be in any danger of being left in the cold.
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do not want. of course, KU-MU-KSU-ISU-OSU-Tech-Baylor don't really have a say in this. If Texas and aTm decide they want to stay, there's nowhere for those schools to go, unless the SEC tries for MU. I don't think KU is as linked to KSU as tadow says, but they're linked enough that KU can't strike out on its own while the Big 12 exists.
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Still less than what Neb will make in the Big 10, isn't it? I have no idea what kind of payout CU is getting.
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I don't want any part of this deal. It does two things--keeps our schools in a conf that's ripe for the picking, while closing the door on many of the current opportunities. And it creates a bigger competitive imbalance within our conference, increasing the likelihood the weaker schools (MU, KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor, Tech) will be farther back in the race when the inevitable poaching of the conference comes around again. And it seems to me that a big selling point is Delaney's assurances he's done poaching Big 12 schools when: A: He could be full of it. B: He doesn't speak for the SEC, who could still make a move on MU, OU, OSU to cripple the Big 12 again and reboot this whole process.
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So you're saying you have Paul Pierce commemorative wheelchairs in both Kansas and Boston colors? I hate the Celtics. They just happen to be playing the one team I hate more. I really hope Boston pulls this out so I get to be in the epicenter of Lakers failure.
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no, i get why KSU fans are hoping it's the truth. And i'd kinda miss the rivalry. But the grim reality is, the state probably isn't big enough to hold two BCS schools in this future landscape. And they need to do everything they can to ensure--from an academic standpoint--the state is positioned well. And that means having at least one major research institution. Like you said, maybe the big 12 survives, and this all goes away. I wouldn't trust that fragile conference at all, though.
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That would make things interesting because my friend on the KBOR says that they will not let KU/KSU split should the conference dissolve. Who knows, but we'll see. Would definitely make things worse for KSU if it happened. I don't think it's ultimately the BOR choice to make. I've also read reports from the BOR that the schools are not bound together. And if they do, they should all be fired. You have one Tier 1 school with a national reputation that is was mandated by the state gov to become a top 50 school in the nation. Additionally, it's been invited by the NCI to apply for designation as a National Center Institute comprehensive cancer center, which would be ENORMOUS for the state as a whole. Why would you handcuff it to a Tier 3 school and insist it get shuffled off to mediocrity, crippling the state's chance at having a top-rated university and all the money/benefits that come with having one? The BOR needs to be loyal to its mission--higher education. If they knowingly drag both schools down, they would be doing the entire state a disservice.
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At this point, assuming we can detach ourselves from the ball and chain that is KSU, I want nothing to do with the floating corpse that is the Big 12. Let's be honest--the second Missouri gets another major conference offer, they're gonzo. And I wouldn't blame them. How could you expect any of the smaller schools (KU/MU/ISU/KSU) to stay? Texas, atm, and tech (because of the coattails factor) will always be safe. OU and OSU (same reason as tech) have nothing to worry about either. The moment the Big 12 crumbles, people will be lining up to accept those schools. But the northern schools and Baylor have found out they're extremely vulnerable.
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Orange County Register says Pac 10 officials will offer the 16th spot to KU, not Utah. I think Utah makes sense if they only expand to 12. If they expand to 16, KU makes way more sense. Better school, more marketable national brand, closer to the schools in its division, a much larger AD budget. Utah has the population advantage and a better football team, but they're hardly a football brand name.
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Love me some Paul Pierce.
